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14th November 06, 06:00 PM
#1
Thanks for the info.
I know I have seen nothing but praise for either gentleman, and I know I'll be happy either way, but like I said... the velcro just sets off alarms in my head...
The Stillwater length SHOULD work on me... we'll see when/if I order one I suppose. I wear a 21.5" UK, but it's low on my hips, if I moved the waistline to my actual waist, I should easily gain the 3.5" (not to mention I've measured and it should fit)... but I won't really know until I get one, right? Yeah... any excuse to buy a kilt...
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14th November 06, 06:06 PM
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I have a USA Casual and I love it. Id rather have buckles because they look nice. but, the velcro does a fine job holding the kilt around me. its thick sturdy velcro. Plus the USA is a custome fit kilt and hard to beat theyre truely nice garments. Id like to order a few more. I dont have a stillwater yet to compair with though, but I plan on getting one in the future.
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14th November 06, 06:07 PM
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 Originally Posted by Captain
...The Stillwater length SHOULD work on me... we'll see when/if I order one I suppose. I wear a 21.5" UK, but it's low on my hips, if I moved the waistline to my actual waist, I should easily gain the 3.5" (not to mention I've measured and it should fit)... but I won't really know until I get one, right? Yeah... any excuse to buy a kilt...
The Stillwaters are worn much higher than you would wear pants. They tend to be worn high up around the navel in the traditional manner. Rocky's USA Casual Kilts are designed to be worn lower on the waist, while his semi trads and traditionals are worn at the navel..
Hope that helps.
Cheers
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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14th November 06, 06:10 PM
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Velcro is your friend, just forget that because it it inexpensive it gets used on items you might not want to buy. Not to dissuade you from a SWK, I have 3, but if it is the velcro that is botherin you, forget about it. Velcro provides a fast, easy, adjustable, and affordable way to fasten a kilt. And it is infinitely variable to boot. Dropped a pound or so, tighten it up a little, put some weight on (the holidays are coming), fasten it a little looser. Focus more on the construction, both provide top notch kilts, and not so much on the closure system. One of my favorite kilts has no fastener system at all, just strap the belt on top, and it works fine. Which is actually more likely what a Highlander did anyway.
The kilt concealed a blaster strapped to his thigh. Lazarus Long
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14th November 06, 06:39 PM
#5
The USAK is going to be a custom made garment, where as SWK is a mass produced garment. Even in the casual line, the difference is AMAZING. I've got 2 USAK Casuals, 1 Semi-Trad, and 1 Premier. The velcro is heavy duty stuff and will stay put regardless of what you are doing. I've worn one running, laying around, you name it. If you want a more traditional look with buckles, jump up to the Semi-Trad.
The 24" Length on the SWK's was a deal breaker for me. Those that Rocky has made for me have all been 25". I've tried two SWK's and sold one, no takers on the second.
*NOTE
I am not talking down on SWK's, for me they just aren't an option and don't fit what I'm looking for in MY kilt wearing.
Cheers 
EDIT:
I did just see this on SWK's site:
We offer made-to-measure wool kilts (hand-tailored in Scotland, at prevailing prices) to our customers in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area. Due to the significant expense involved, we generally require measurements to be taken in person for custom-tailored kilts. We can order nearly any tartan. We will soon have additional details on this page.
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14th November 06, 06:40 PM
#6
Actually, the velcro on the USAK Casuals is fine. Just wear a belt...and the belt loops are sized for a "normal" sized belt instead of a wide kilt belt...and a sporran and the whole thing holds together nicely.
Best
AA
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14th November 06, 07:18 PM
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Captain If you want to know about USAK casuals and if they do alright on large guys, check out this thread http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=22166
These pictures will show you a big guy I just got a USAK casual in on Monday and I have had zero problems with the velcro. Now not that I am the last word in kilts because I am not, but I believe it works perfectly an I plan on purchasing many more from Rocky. Good luck with you choice.
Brett
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14th November 06, 07:29 PM
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Both are great kilts in their own regard. The custom fit of a USA is great and the velcro is a lot more forgiving than 2" of travel on a leather strap. The weight of the USA poly viscose is less than the SWK and a lot less than a SWK heavy weight wool. It is winter now and a SWK heavy may just do the trick for the winter and give you time for the USA in the spring. O'Neille
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15th November 06, 03:55 AM
#9
I have a Bear kilt (Also a pv)which I use in the hills around my home quite a lot. As long as you close the velcro before you machine wash your kilt you'll have no problems .
With a kilt belt on no one will notice how it's fastened. It's all in the mind
Rocky wouldn't use it if he wasn't confidant with the quality of it
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15th November 06, 06:05 AM
#10
Thanks for all the positive words, guys!
The reason(s) we use velcro on our casuals is b/c it's got MUCH more flexability and is much easier for the first time kilt wearer. I've had that same question before : "Will it stay on?". I have no idea what type of intense grappling maneuvers people plan on DOING in a kilt (joking), but I can say with 99% certainty that it'll stay put, unless someone is INTENT on ripping it off of you. If you wear a belt with it, it'll DEFINITELY stay put... (there's a reason we put the belt loops by the outer edges of the front apron)
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask us (or all the other guys up here)!
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