MacMullen, looks like a good time was had by all. Where abouts do you go (as you said you come down from Marquette)? I head up to a camp thats about an hour north of Escanaba (its actually "in" Helps). Same kind of road going in though. We don't "need" 4 wheel drive, but its certainly a lot easier than finding someone with 4WD and a winch after you get stuck.