Celts in Greek Mythology

[Warhoover]

Incidents like the burning of the Library at Alexandria did alot to create that lost part of our history. Every time I think of the knowledge that was lost there I just shake my head. I often wonder how far we would be if that knowledge would have survived. The Antikythera mechanism is just one of those tidbits that teases us.

[auld argonian]

Oh, Dread...that prompted me to do a search for "red haired mummies" since I remember the PBS Nova episode about them that was on a couple of years ago...and I found this as well:

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/redhairedrace.html

....ho-lee smokes...red hair is the result of alien abductions, the Tuatha de Danaan, the continents of Mu and Lemuria, the lost tribes of Israel, the CIA, Carl Jung and ancient astronauts. We've always had a joke in my family that cats and red-haired people are the only two life forms that are not native to the planet Earth but I had no idea....

I especially like the part about the "underground Tuatha De Danaan" still trying to stop nuclear proliferation because they have an ancestral memory of their advanced civilization having been destroyed by nukes in some bygone age...

(I provide this link for AMUSEMENT only...how could it be any othr way?)

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[David White]

The Celts were the Greeks boogie men.

[Dreadbelly]

Not just the Greeks... Caesar said the Celts had hair like snakes. They skeered the bejeebus out of the Romans too, what, running around all naked, covered in woad, and freakishly long swords. The Celts are the one group of people that the Romans never truly conquered.

That an the whole lycanthropy thing... The Romans didn't much care for the idea of psychotic warriors with the rumoured powers to turn in to animals like bears or wolves. Just wasn't civilised.

[Warlock]

I'll tell you, one of my guilty pleasures used to be reading Robert E. Howard who wrote the original Conan the Barbarian books. The story goes that, even though he never traveled more than fifty miles from his home in Texas, REH wrote these remarkable stories about far off lands that he never visited and he managed to cook up his own early history where all of the peoples that we would recognize as distinct ethnic groups lived in their sort of specific parts of the world. He had Brythunians, Hykranians, Kushites, Vanirmen, Aquilonians and, of course, Cimmerians just to name a few...it was pretty easy to recognize which ethnic groups these folks "evolved" into. The whole thing was based on some historical and anthropological material so it was quite believable if contrived. These legends sound very much like ones that REH used to cook up his worlds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E_Howard

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Two gun Bob {REH's nickname from his friends. Because he carried 2 six shooters} Tragically ended his life after his mother died. A great talent. I have an Early story of his somewhere about the early Picts and the dark diminuative race they encounterd when they moved into England/ Scotland. I'll have to see if I can find it. { I never did find that Star Trek article.}

[beloitpiper]

Yes they did. With red hair and fair skin. (Well, some had red hair)

Those mummies also caused a hell of a lot of controversy because they are over 10,000 years old. Or so the claim. I don't have a clue how old they really are.

Speaking of 10,000 year old objects, the pyramids are a lot older than previously thought. There are three star gazing holes in the sides of one of the pyramids at Giza that they just found not to long ago. These three holes should align with Orion's belt in the sky, but the earth has shifted orbit and the African plate has drifted a bit, so the alignment is no longer perfect. The alignment would have been perfect about 10,000 to 15,000 years ago. Human beings and civilisations are much older than we realise. We are a species with severe amnesia, there is a massive chunk of time and high civilisation that we can't seem to account for, a period where we fell backwards, and then the long slow climb back to civilisation bringing us to where we are now.

Those mummies found in China are another piece of the puzzle. There are things about them that just don't fit in, and items they had that were far more advanced than what they should have.

As an archaeologist, I have to take this with a grain of salt. Just because a hole in a pyramid aligns with Orien 10,000 years ago does not mean that is when they were built. There is no other evidence the pyramids in Egypt, or anywhere else for that matter, are over 5,000 y.a.

Currently, I am working on cataloging stone tools that were used approx. 25,000 BCE by the last of the neandertals. They were still competitors of Homo sapiens back then, and sapiens did not overpower them until about 22,000 BCE. It wasn't until 7,000 BCE that people began to form even the most basic states and civilizations.

[Dreadbelly]

Not just a hole, but MANY holes. The star gazing ports. And it is not just Orion's belt. They keep finding these long holes that lead to inner chambers deep in all three pyramids, but could not figure out what they were pointing to. Buy using some kind of program on a super computer to turn back time, they found that the three holes aligned with Orion, and when they did this, other star gazing ports began to align with other stars and features, including alignments with Jupiter and Saturn.

It is controversial stuff. More and more evidence is coming around that the pyramids are much other than thought, and this isn't just crackpot claims about aliens. Really good questions have come up, like how did this ancient race, whomever they were, know about Saturn? There may be star gazing portals they don't yet know about clogged with dust and debris on the surface that may point to other planets. New evidence now that the sphinx was submerged at one time, buried under water, right up to its neck, and that it is even older than the pyramids. About 20,000 years ago, that area was covered in water, and when the water retreated, it was a lush rainforest. The sphinx used to have a temple next to it, the retaining wall is still there, it was just found back in 1999 or 2000 I think. The pyramids are built on top of it. The stones for the retaining wall for the temple of the sphinx are OLD. Way to old. And they show signs of severe errosion after being submerged for who knows how many years. Sphinx does too, but it has been touched up a few times through history and had the head switched, so it has become hard to tell what's going on there. Even the sphinx aligns with stars from thousands of years ago that it no longer aligns with now.

This is exciting stuff that nobody has answers for, and nobody can say what it is or isn't.

Some of the secret vaults under the pyramids may not even be "part" of the pyramids, but may be part of the ancient temple structure that existed there before the pyramids were built.

[thescot]

Yeah, well, Keltos (the Greek spelling) was indeed the son of Heracles and Keltine in Greek mythology, and is indeed the father of the Celts! (Remember, that "kelts" with a hard C, not "Selts" like the Boston basketball team.)

[beloitpiper]

Well, Dreadbelly, the sensationalism surrounding pyramids and other archaeological site may be fun and exciting, but don't forget the known fact about the sites either.

There are a lot of people that'll say stuff to get attention. Saying the pyramids were built in 10,000 BCE may sell newspapers, but any true archaeologist will tell you it is an impossibility, being that it wasn't until at least 6,000 BCE that there was agriculture in the Nile valley.

[Dreadbelly]

And the temple structure that exists under the pyramids? The retaining wall that is now visable? The finding of an ancient foundation under the pyramids that predates them and is made from a completely different stone?

All questions, no easy answers. I'm not saying I understand it, but evidence to the contrary is out there, and it is more than just crackpot claims.

Also unusual is the fact that there are some pyramids in South America that because of the realisation that computers can be used to adjust the stars, which are now considered much older because there are now patterns that now fit with certain features that used to baffle the dirt diggers and drive them nuts.

I can't think of the guy's name, but he is the world's leading Egyptologist. He's bald. He is the world's leading authority on ancient Egypt... He posed the question that if the pyramids were only a few thousand years old, then a greater mystery exists on how those ancient people were able to align the pyramids to star patterns that existed thousands of years before their time and take in to account plate drift. No easy answer for that... It is easier to answer that they could be older than previously thought.