New contemporary kilt maker

[mexpiper]

hmmm i just checked out thier website. In the top right hand corner above the shoes,and bagpipes on their header..

This may be petty but if its a Celtic Shop.. why do they have the "English flag/Flag of England... (FKA Flag of St. George)" and a flag of Northern Ireland ? I thought Northern Ireland is Part of Ireland.. a Celtic Nation... England is not a Celtic Nation. I actually had to explain this to someone today at work.. because i had a printout of the flags of the Seven Nations and someone asked where the english flag was... I gave a brief history lesson as she was asking about the Union Jack/Flag of Great Britian.

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[McClef]

Northern Ireland is on the island of Ireland but part of the United Kingdom Mexpiper. It's not the place here to go into the history of how it came about but just a couple of general observations...

The flag isn't just Northern Ireland but the flag of the Province of Ulster. The historical Province has nine counties but six of them are in the UK and three of them are in the Irish Republic. Although the flag is used for the Six Counties it actually represents nine counties.

Although England isn't Celtic as such there are fringes - they have probably assumed (as most people do) that Cornwall is in England for example. There are also places in England that used to be in Scotland, such as Berwick upon Tweed, and places in Wales that used to be in England such as Monmouthshire. Also England isn't a complete desert in terms of things Celtic, there are some English tartans even and quite a few pipe and drum bands whose members may not have a Celtic ancestry.

[macwilkin]

The flag isn't just Northern Ireland but the flag of the Province of Ulster. The historical Province has nine counties but six of them are in the UK and three of them are in the Irish Republic. Although the flag is used for the Six Counties it actually represents nine counties.

Also, it should be pointed out that there are two different Ulster flags; one representing Northern Ireland (although no longer officially), which is part of the UK (6 counties), and the other a historic flag of the Ulster, which combines the symbols of the O'Neill's and de Burgos families; the latter represents the historic 9 counties of Ulster.

See Vincent Morley's "Flags of Ireland" page for more information:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Sparta/1648/flags.htm

Although England isn't Celtic as such there are fringes - they have probably assumed (as most people do) that Cornwall is in England for example. There are also places in England that used to be in Scotland, such as Berwick upon Tweed, and places in Wales that used to be in England such as Monmouthshire. Also England isn't a complete desert in terms of things Celtic, there are some English tartans even and quite a few pipe and drum bands whose members may not have a Celtic ancestry.

And, don't forget Northumberland and the Borders, although Northumberland does have it's own flag.

I thought Northern Ireland is Part of Ireland.. a Celtic Nation... England is not a Celtic Nation. I actually had to explain this to someone today at work.. because i had a printout of the flags of the Seven Nations and someone asked where the english flag was... I gave a brief history lesson as she was asking about the Union Jack/Flag of Great Britian.

Northern Ireland does have a distinct culture seperate from the South; see:

http://www.ulsterscotsagency.com/home.asp

Regards,

Todd