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16th March 07, 05:26 AM
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[QUOTE=ckelly327;346359]I just think that with the above historical statements that you can accept the kilt as part of the Irish culture since it has been adopted for over 100 years in Ireland regardless if it was first fashioned in the Highlands or not. There are a wide variety of family tartans now for the Irish. My Irish friends and I usually consider the kilt to be a pan-celtic garment whether that is historically (more than 200 years ago) accurate statement or not. We have seen in other threads the amount of intermingling in the Celtic Isles that I don't see how any Scot could take offense that the Irish enjoy the kilt too.
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Agreed! Only a few hard-core traditionalists have a problem with the "pan-celtic" concept. Irish usage, as you say, now has a solid century of history behind it, so "Irish kilts" should be an acceptable reality to all. (I only object to folks twisting history and claiming an Irish origin to kilts.)
FYI, I have more Irish heritage than Scottish and wear an Irish tartan - "Forde." My ancestors of that name emigrated from Ireland in the 1890's. So, I'd have a serious problem with someone objecting to Irish kilts, too...!
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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16th March 07, 05:53 AM
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Agreed! Only a few hard-core traditionalists have a problem with the "pan-celtic" concept. Irish usage, as you say, now has a solid century of history behind it, so "Irish kilts" should be an acceptable reality to all. (I only object to folks twisting history and claiming an Irish origin to kilts.)
I think that's a very reasonable statement, to be sure. This "hard-core traditionalist" can agree to everything you said, Brian.
Cheers, 
Todd
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16th March 07, 06:04 AM
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While my father immigrated from County Tyrone in the late 1920s, we are Scots. At least that is what the Irish American Society tells me. I am also a Gordon on my mother's side of the family.
"A day spent in the fields and woods, or on the water should not count as a day off our allotted number upon this earth."
Jerry, Kilted Old Fart.
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16th March 07, 01:09 PM
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I regularly wear the Irish National Tartan, as well as a MacKenzie for the Scottish side of my heritage as well. I strongly embrace my Irish Heritage and traditions. It's the term "Tradition" that i fear some people interpret with vast difference. As far as I understand though, as many people have quoted the Kilt has only really been around for 100+ years in Ireland. But honestly even if the tradition start 5 years ago, I would still embrace it. My Irish family name may not have it's own tartan for me to wear, but I am proud nonetheless.
Most states if not all for all i know in the US have their own tartan as well. These tartans just like their ancestors in Ireland and Scotland should be worn with respect.
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