I'd like to thank those that offered advice. I found that 3 times or so the exposed is the norm on knife pleat size. I had already downloaded the x-kilt directions. I took a stab at an x-kilt in digi camo. It turned out okay but wished I had gone with a much wider apron. I added a single button to the one side to keep myself "covered" when squatting down. I followed the corduroy x-kilt thread. The step by step was awesome. Panache, your wife did an amazing job. I never knew about the double box pleat, I'd like to try that but I think I lack the patience for it. A double box pleated x-kilt in khaki canvas would be pretty cool though.