I'm gonna make a suggestion. You've made two superb non-tartan X-Kilts now, and man-oh-man do they look good.

I have made a 6-yard knife-pleated kilt from the 10 ounce wool/poly blend light grey tartan that F&K sells and it came out pretty well. It doesn't have quite the substance that a heavier kilt would have, but it's a good summer kilt. If I'd take it apart and re-do just a couple of details......this was my first try at pleating to sett....I'd have a very acceptable kilt. As it is, it's just fine for casual wear, and all things considered, it s got a good "swing".. However, I would hesitate to make a 4-yard kilt out of thes stuff; either box pleated or knife pleated.

Tme to move on. Try this, maybe?. Go buy some 16 ounce X Marks tartan from F&K. Think about how you made the X-Kilt and how you could make it more easily. You understand what box-pleats are, now...take the X-Mafks fabric that you buy and fold it up with box pleats. Think it through. Then make a full-width-apron, box pleat kilt out of the X-Marks tartan, using the knowledge you've gained from making two X-Kilts. Put in a substantial canvas waistband strip over all the pleats, and back the over-apron with a strip of hair canvas, or even just heavyweight cotton canvas from JoAnne's. Use buckles and straps for your closures instead of velcro.

16 ounce stuff makes the best 4--yard kilt becasue when you have less material you kind of really need the weight.

Here's an offer. If you come to Beer and Kilts Night this month or in August, I'll bring my 4-yard box-pleat kilt in the California Tartan, and you can look at it. I bet that w2f would bring his box-pleat, too.

I have NO doubt that you could do this, and do a really nice job of it.