yeah..i think what happens is folks get in and WANT one...no matter if its "too long" and dont want to wait for a chop or to order one in a more "proper" length..

i typically go by the standard "kneeling" length..and most of us will strongly encourage folks to keep it on the shorter side..to avoid the trollop effect...but a few folks regularly wear them tween the bottom of the knee cap and the shin...WAY long in my book.

im washing all mine today as they are due...eheh...added a bit of caked on dirt, whiskey, fire smoke, hippie sweat from the drum circles and beer at the games...