guys, having spent my time in the military (NAVY), I agree that war can warp a person. In this case though I think the nasty behavior exibited by this vet is more an effect of alchohol than any military service. I'm glad there was no violence but, being a vet DOES NOT excuse bad behavior, and if we offer excuses may lead to people like this becomming more bold in the future. Hope I aint brought a bummer to your saturday. Thanks Lork.