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29th September 07, 07:03 PM
#11
 Originally Posted by Hamish
That is what I have always done, Jock. I have also tied my ties in a Windsor knot for as long as I can remember (but not quite back to when they were first invented!!), which uses up a little more tie than some other knots. On the other hand, I am/was (!) fairly tall and that must help.
Ha, was Noah really grumpy?
Okay, ties: note that in the UK ties are worn commonly by everybody (that's a universal general statement). Ties are so much rarer and special event here. Tucking the extra piece in, as recommended, is the standard practice.
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29th September 07, 07:11 PM
#12
If you go to your local tartan shop, I know there are ties that are shorter just for this purpose, the tie I wore to the Scottish Rite was from my local tartan shop, and was made by Lochcarron, however if you have other ties then just tuck in the back as has been advised.
Oh and I have proof good sir that you have indeed worn a kilt with a tie...
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29th September 07, 08:58 PM
#13
You guys really aren't listening. There is no such thing as a special length of ties for kilt! 
Ties come in different lengths for body size and neck size.
Long ties are for big people, short ties are for smaller people, and the regular size is for the average person!
What makes the difference is the way that you tie the knot!
Learn to tie a Windsor knot, and you will be able to use a regular length tie with a kilt. Practice tieing it. Tie it so the ends come close to matching, and it will be the correct length for kilt - just touching the buckle.
Never, but never tuck the extra length in your shirt or tuck it behind the belt.
Learn to knot the tie correctly!
Got it!
Last edited by James MacMillan; 29th September 07 at 11:15 PM.
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29th September 07, 10:04 PM
#14
 Originally Posted by James MacMillan
 You guys really aren't listening. There is no such thing as a special length of ties for kilt!
Ties come in different lengths for body size and neck size.
Long ties are for big people, short ties are for smaller people, and the regular size is for the average person!
What makes the difference is the way that you tie the knot!
Learn to tie a Windsor knot, and you will be able to use a regular length tie with a kilt. Practice tieing it. Tie it so the ends come close to matching, and it will be the correct length for kilt - just touching the buckle.
cussing:Never, but never tuck the extra length in your shirt or tuck it behind the belt.cussing:
Learn to knot the tie correctly!
Got it! 
You know, James might be on to something here!
So glen you say just to tuck the other end into the shirt? Hmmmm.
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29th September 07, 10:10 PM
#15
Don't wear them very dang often any more but everytime I do I think of my pop patiently teaching me to tie a Windsor - thanks pops!
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30th September 07, 07:35 AM
#16
I try to tie mine to come to the top of the kilt, but if it I'm wearing a sweater/waistcoat/something else over it, I just tuck the tie into my kilt. It makes it much easier.
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30th September 07, 07:41 AM
#17
re: Grant Wearing Tie Proof. lol His mind is going, at SUCH an early age, too. ;)
I tie a Windsor knot (my dad was a naval Petty Officer), and it's never been a problem. In the military, I learned to tuck the short end of the tie into my shirt between two buttons.
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30th September 07, 08:55 AM
#18
Well, obviously, we have some members who are unwilling to learn new things. So to help the knot challenged, I am now marketing a special “saxon tie modification device” otherwise known as the STMD.
I am only in the beta stage with the STMD right now, but sometime within the next few months, I should be able to go on-line selling this fantastic tie shortening device.
The STMD will be extensively tested on all known tie fabrics to ensure full function ability. The testing process consists of pulling out the back part of any tie tucked into a shirt or behind a belt and forcibly severing the fabric material, thereby enabling the knot challenged to wear the tie with kilt. I also plan on writing an extensive operators manual coupled with glossy color photos. Some of you might be interested in getting in on the ground floor with investment capital.
I am taking advance order now. For those who are willing to accept a few flaws during the testing process, I have the first proto-type (shown below) available now.

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30th September 07, 10:47 AM
#19
My worst fear is the Dr. telling me that I have STMD's! Can you imagine carring scissors around in your sporran?
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30th September 07, 11:20 AM
#20
 Originally Posted by ccga3359
My worst fear is the Dr. telling me that I have STMD's! Can you imagine carring scissors around in your sporran?
Now! Come come Grant,this won't do!Even you must know that scissors are not carried in your sporran.Surely everyone knows that scissors are carried in a haggis hair sheath that is then placed in your hose on the inside of your left leg.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 30th September 07 at 11:33 AM.
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