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    Be the Alpha!

    For any leg humpin', I would do what my trainer showed us to do.

    Grab a fistful of hair and skin on the back of it's neck and drive your knuckles to the floor, while saying in very firm voice "NO!".. This should be done in a rather abrupt fashion. The goal is not the hurt the dog. They may yelp, ignore it.... They are just upset that they are being corrected..

    Hold the dog down like that for a second or two, then let them go. When they get up, do not break eye contact with them, till they look away. This instills the fact you are the Alpha and not to be challenged.

    This sounds rougher than it really is, and if you think about it, it's exactly what his doggie momma did to him when he was a pup and bit the nip too hard...

    I have done this to many dogs.. All of them respect me when I walk in the room..

    BTW he is a cute little bugger!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Paul View Post
    Be the Alpha!

    For any leg humpin', I would do what my trainer showed us to do.

    Grab a fistful of hair and skin on the back of it's neck and drive your knuckles to the floor, while saying in very firm voice "NO!".. This should be done in a rather abrupt fashion. The goal is not the hurt the dog. They may yelp, ignore it.... They are just upset that they are being corrected..

    Hold the dog down like that for a second or two, then let them go. When they get up, do not break eye contact with them, till they look away. This instills the fact you are the Alpha and not to be challenged.

    This sounds rougher than it really is, and if you think about it, it's exactly what his doggie momma did to him when he was a pup and bit the nip too hard...

    I have done this to many dogs.. All of them respect me when I walk in the room..

    BTW he is a cute little bugger!
    Gotta tell you, he's not humping any human legs. He is going after the two other dogs, both of whom are spayed females, five times bigger than him and definitely not hearing it...he's getting his comeuppance.

    Also have to suggest that there's a growing body of evidence that the techniques of back-rolling and extended eye contact don't result in your having dominance over a dog and can, in fact, lead to other behavior problems that can be really annoying and potentially dangerous. Apparently, the back-rolling technique came from the Monks of New Sketes' books on training and I understand that they have had to issue a sort of retraction of it and have had to explain the very specific circumstances under which they have had to employ it in the past. Back-rolling should apparently be used only by a well trained animal behavorist and then in very specific sets of circumstances. There are cases of it's use by others have been disastrous and resulted in serious injury. I'll find some citations for this later on and give you a link.

    Ol' Cesar Milan is coming under fire as well...many established behaviorists are expressing the opinion that his techniques can lead to dangerous problems, as well. It may look like it works on TV but real life can be very different. Face it...it's pop-psychology for dogs.

    Stare downs may make sense to humans but field research has shown that dogs don't do it as part of normal pack life. When they do do it, bad stuff ensues. If anything, dominant dogs signal their dominance by what looks to us like aloofness and a minimum amount of "verbal" signaling.

    If you've been having success doing this consider that the day may come when you do it to the wrong dog...there are psycho dogs with aggression issues. It happens. Even the professional behaviorists have stories about situations where one little thing went wrong and bad craziness happened. Proceed with caution.

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