Military Box Pleat XMTS Tartan Kilt

[Panache]

...We're going to need a couple close-up shots of those pleats, though. Disturbed minds (mine included) will want to replicate this for themselves.

I will try to get a couple of closeups later today as well as an interesting addition to the inside of the pleats.

...Pleated to the light gray strip if I'm not mistaken. Could you add a close-up pic when you get a chance showing some of the MBP detail?

You are mistaken! It is to the yellow stripe (time for a new monitor and/or glasses turpin! )

...I have the X-marks tartan made in a box pleat by Matt Newsome. It has 10 pleats across the back. I'm guessing yours has more.

Is that the difference with a military box pleat?

A Military box pleat is, in a nutshell, a knife pleat that has been folded over again on itself. Very different from Matt's box pleats. Hopefully a picture or two will illustrate the difference.

....what did W2F do to your selvege to "disappear" the white line on the selvedge?

I'll leave that one to the kilt maker.

... Are you going to wear it to the Burns Night?

No question!

...You Moderators think you can do just anything!

Of course we can, that's why we are Mods!

Cheers

Jamie

[McFarkus]

You are mistaken! It is to the yellow stripe (time for a new monitor and/or glasses turpin! )


Jamie

Turpin's been wearing glasses (contacts) for years. But when you're somewhere between 40 and death, you need to change the prescription more often.

Seriously, though, congratulations on a great kilt. I do agree with Turpin that we need more pix, including a Hamish pose and closer view of the pleats. I am hoping to get MBP on my first custom kilt.

[Panache]

Here are a few detailed shots of the miltary box pleats





way2fractious purchased a very old military kilt that had this pleating style from which he learned how to make this type of pleat. Another unusual feature about this kilt was that it had a band on the inside of the pleats to keep the kilt from flairing up too much from either wind or activity. Having seen my beloved Flame-Haired Celtic Amazon Goddess and I at work on the dance floor he felt that this feature might be useful.



Cheers

Jamie

[cloves]

way2fractious purchased a very old military kilt that had this pleating style from which he learned how to make this type of pleat. Another unusual feature about this kilt was that it had a band on the inside of the pleats to keep the kilt from flairing up too much from either wind or activity. Having seen my beloved Flame-Haired Celtic Amazon Goddess and I at work on the dance floor he felt that this feature might be useful.


Jamie

that inner pleat band thingy is very ingenious! Good work W2F

[O'Neille]

Thanks for the close-up. Very nice! Looks like a great way to use up extra yardage and gain some extra swish factor.

[Panache]

Thanks for the close-up. Very nice! Looks like a great way to use up extra yardage and gain some extra swish factor.

O'Neille,

There is definite "swish", but it is different than with a regular knife pleat kilt. The pleats are heavier and thicker so the swing seems to be more subtle.

Cheers

Jamie

[way2fractious]

... extra yardage... extra swish...

A military box pleat kilt (pleated to the stripe) uses no more fabric than a knife pleat kilt pleated to the stripe. The difference is that each pleat is shallower to allow for the "turnback" of the knife edge. Because each rolled pleat has more layers it is actually stiffer than a knife pleat - it doesn't take quite as crisp an edge and has, as Panache describes it, a "different" swish.

I love mine, done in 16 oz Weathered MacLaren - and I hope Panache loves his, done in 16 oz XMarksTheScot.

They are warm, too. Great for our nearly-freezing winters here in California.

w2f

[O'Neille]

I see now. By turning back the pleat you are decreasing the depth of pleat while creating the box pleat. Cool

[cacunn]

way2fractious purchased a very old military kilt that had this pleating style from which he learned how to make this type of pleat. Another unusual feature about this kilt was that it had a band on the inside of the pleats to keep the kilt from flairing up too much from either wind or activity. Having seen my beloved Flame-Haired Celtic Amazon Goddess and I at work on the dance floor he felt that this feature might be useful.


Jamie

Is the retaining strap (for lack of a better term) elastic and attached to ever second or third pleat?

Way2 the work look great. It is amassing how many quality kilt makers are showing up in the states.

[way2fractious]

Is the retaining strap (for lack of a better term) elastic and attached to ever second or third pleat?

It is elastic, obtained from the friendly, neighborhood fabric store, and is attached to the inside edge of every other pleat with enough slack to accomodate a third pleat.

The old military kilt I obtained as an example has broken remnants of very old elastic which is no longer stretchy. (Similar to this old guy who loses his physically adaptive capacities with the passage of years. ) It took a while to unravel the mystery of what it was. As to why it was used on the kilt, the best guess is that it helps to tame the labrynth layers of creases so they fall back into place more readily. {shrug}

w2f