As usual, Daron wrote back almost immediately, and info me that some of prototypes did follow normal measurements, so it could be alittle big, we went over exactly how I measured my massive gut, Skin or Covered (like my wife likes ) and that some of Glasgow's did not have the "secret pocket" due the box pleats and how they lay between the legs. I will try to get pic's soon as I figure out how to do it.

MM