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24th February 08, 08:19 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by TechBear
And therein lies a distinction that I think should be made. I have several Utilikilts which I wear in lieu of shorts when it is warm. While UKs are based on "proper modern Scottish attire," they are actually an American garment.
They are very American... and based on a pair of cargo shorts, not a kilt. And when it comes to protocol and dress etiquette when wearing the kilt these don't count, because they are not kilts. If you wear a Utilikilt and don't wear a sporran, or no flashes... not to worry, the kilt snobs, kilt police, ect. well not hound you, and don't care... "It's not a kilt".
 Originally Posted by Erisianmonkey
The kilt is unique in that it is probably the only single garment in the world that would gather people of so many different viewpoints together in one place to discuss it. There are many people of Scots descent who are afraid of claiming this piece of their heritage because dressing in a prescribed fashion goes against their principles. Folks like myself help to show them that a kilt is not a costume that must be worn only with this accessory or that or you are not recognizing that the kilt "means something" if you don't wear it in the "proper" (i.e., PC, or the like) way.
I had no idea that the kilt was the only garment in the world to grab so much attention. I guess all of the fashion shows I see on TV are just hype, and there really is no concern about any garment other than the kilt. And I was also unaware that anyone with a Scottish last name and not wearing the kilt were somehow afraid of their heritage. And which principles were those that kilt wearing is in conflict with? And why do people in this thread seem to be stuck on the Victorian Era, and Prince Charlie coate, and converting others to kilt wearing? Jamie has posted some fine pictures of him dressed well in the kilt, including in a t-shirt, did a PC get airbrushed in after I had seen the pic?
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25th February 08, 06:01 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by Highland Logan
They are very American... and based on a pair of cargo shorts, not a kilt. And when it comes to protocol and dress etiquette when wearing the kilt these don't count, because they are not kilts. If you wear a Utilikilt and don't wear a sporran, or no flashes... not to worry, the kilt snobs, kilt police, ect. well not hound you, and don't care... "It's not a kilt".
Alright, then. I see that there is no point or purpose to me being here if my UKs are not actually kilts. At least you were polite about telling me to shut up and go away.
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25th February 08, 07:11 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by Highland Logan
They are very American... and based on a pair of cargo shorts, not a kilt. And when it comes to protocol and dress etiquette when wearing the kilt these don't count, because they are not kilts. If you wear a Utilikilt and don't wear a sporran, or no flashes... not to worry, the kilt snobs, kilt police, ect. well not hound you, and don't care... "It's not a kilt".
 Originally Posted by TechBear
Alright, then. I see that there is no point or purpose to me being here if my UKs are not actually kilts. At least you were polite about telling me to shut up and go away. 
I don't think that is what he meant. I think what he meant is that a UK doesn't represent anything Scottish and so those who are traditionalists don't care how it is worn.
The UK, as mentioned, is not a real kilt. I know this always offends some people whenever it's mentioned but it shouldn't.
From the UK website:
A NOTE ABOUT “REAL KILTS”:
It is often suggested that Utilikilts* brand utility kilts are not “real kilts.” This is 100% TRUE!
“Real Kilts” are defined as: “A knee-length skirt with deep pleats, usually of a tartan wool, worn as part of the dress for men in the Scottish Highlands.”
Utilikilts* brand utility kilts, on the other hand, are manskirts (as are Scottish traditional kilts, and, for that matter, any M.U.G (Men’s Unbifurcated Garment).
These are Utilikilts words not mine and that is why I have no problem how anyone chooses to wear a UK (within what are considered the confines of decency anyway).
Last edited by Chef; 25th February 08 at 07:17 PM.
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