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                                                1st March 08, 03:11 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Thanks Jock
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Jock Scot   Right then,I have consulted with "The Oracle" and his advice is to "Google", art of stickmaking,and you will see what is needed on the book front.I have just done it and Amazon has a few to buy.The book that is the stickmakers "bible" is called something like:the Craft of Stickmaking by Leo ????.Hope this helps to get you started and let me know if I can help further.  ...and thank you gentlemen for the links & information, I greatly appreciate it!
   [SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
 [SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                1st March 08, 06:32 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Before the hamish-bow, I hope.  LOL!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by highlander_Daz   they also come in very handy on Karaoke night as well!!! 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                1st March 08, 06:42 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Guess I aught to get one of those...  Blind guy here, that is about the length of a cane.  And some of the non-folding canes have the crook at the top... Their aluminum, though.
				 I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                2nd March 08, 12:54 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Jock, I found a few on Amazon.com, including the stickmakers "bible"
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Jock Scot   Right then,I have consulted with "The Oracle" and his advice is to "Google", art of stickmaking,and you will see what is needed on the book front.I have just done it and Amazon has a few to buy.The book that is the stickmakers "bible" is called something like:the Craft of Stickmaking by Leo ????.Hope this helps to get you started and let me know if I can help further.  Thanks again for your assistance
  
 Here's a few of what I found:
 
 The Craft of Stickmaking (Paperback)
 by Leo Gowan
 http://www.amazon.com/Craft-Stickmak...4443760&sr=1-4
 
 
 Stickmaking (Paperback)
 by Leo Gowan (Author)
 http://www.amazon.com/Stickmaking-Le...4443947&sr=1-3
 
 
 Stickmaking: A Complete Course (Paperback)
 by Andrew Jones (Author), Clive George (Author)
 http://www.amazon.com/Stickmaking-Co...4443947&sr=1-1
 
 
 Stickmaking Handbook (Paperback)
 by Andrew Jones (Author), Clive George (Author)
 http://www.amazon.com/Stickmaking-Ha...4443947&sr=1-2
 [SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
 [SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                2nd March 08, 01:44 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Yeah, was thinking the same thing.  Our blind canes are usually measured to our sternums, breastbones.  I have been thinking about a stick that would serve as a cane if needed, but that might be more dressy or at least pair up with the kilt.  Now I'd like to know the pros and cons of sticks measured to the breastbone, verses walking sticks that are measured to the wrist when arm is hanging at the side.
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Ted Crocker   Guess I aught to get one of those...  Blind guy here, that is about the length of a cane.  And some of the non-folding canes have the crook at the top... Their aluminum, though. 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                2nd March 08, 02:16 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			Blackthorn Walking Stick
		
			
				
					
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by slohairt   They even have shillelaghs! My Dad always referred to them (and still does) as L*m*y-thumpers!   
 I've also been seeking a blackthorn walking stick with the size & heft of the one carried by Victor McLaglen in "The Quiet Man" (next time you watch the film note his in comparison to the others shown).
 
 I have searched high & low on the internet, and everything I locate is under 36" & usually a bit on the "thin" side.
 I've been seeking one around the length of 42" - 43".
 
 Anybody know a source for decent blackthorn walking stick in this range?
 [SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
 [SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                2nd March 08, 05:07 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	There are a few reasons why the cromach is longer than a normal walking stick.The main one was that a sheepherd needed the reach to catch a sheep.When on the "hill" we use them very much as a third leg to steady us on slippery rocks and grass,particularly on the decent,if your stick is too short you would be forever bending down.They are used as depth guages in rivers and in wet boggy ground and when you are leaning on them,for a rest, the first foot or so has often sunk into the ground.The length is not just a Scots/hill man fashion thing it is cut longer very much for a purpose.I would not dream of going for a walk in the country without one.Oh one more thing!If you are going to get a cromach DON'T get one with a shaft too thick they look awful and will be no fun to lug around, too thin is just as useless.As a rough guide,the bottom of the stick needs to be about the thickness of a thin thumb.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Toddo   Yeah, was thinking the same thing.  Our blind canes are usually measured to our sternums, breastbones.  I have been thinking about a stick that would serve as a cane if needed, but that might be more dressy or at least pair up with the kilt.  Now I'd like to know the pros and cons of sticks measured to the breastbone, verses walking sticks that are measured to the wrist when arm is hanging at the side. 
				
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                                                2nd March 08, 03:29 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Good to know .... thanks!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Jock Scot   As a rough guide,the bottom of the stick needs to be about the thickness of a thin thumb.   [SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
 [SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                2nd March 08, 05:12 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					All good information.  Sounds like the cromach would be ideal for outdoor pursuits, and the short walking cane for around town.  Looks like I might have to get at least one of each. ;) 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Jock Scot   There are a few reasons why the cromach is longer than a normal walking stick.The main one was that a sheepherd needed the reach to catch a sheep.When on the "hill" we use them very much as a third leg to steady us on slippery rocks and grass,particularly on the decent,if your stick is too short you would be forever bending down.They are used as depth guages in rivers and in wet boggy ground and when you are leaning on them,for a rest, the first foot or so has often sunk into the ground.The length is not just a Scots/hill man fashion thing it is cut longer very much for a purpose.I would not dream of going for a walk in the country without one.Oh one more thing!If you are going to get a cromach DON'T get one with a shaft too thick they look awful and will be no fun to lug around, too thin is just as useless.As a rough guide,the bottom of the stick needs to be about the thickness of a thin thumb. 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                2nd March 08, 08:14 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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