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8th March 08, 07:51 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by slohairt
companies is an independent Jaguar belongs to Ford, .
Ford sold Jaguar to an India based auto manufacturer. Is nothing sacred?
When one man builds a widget, the next guy will try to build a cheaper widget so he can sell more. It's just human nature. And the more people complain about it, the more advertising no. 2 gets for free. Like my mum used to tell me, Just ignore it and it will go away. But as long as people want a good deal (cheap prices), this kind of thing will go on forever.
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8th March 08, 08:22 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by David Thornton
In the spirit of your post, I respectfully disagree. Edinburgh is not unique and mostly they are just meeting demand. My sister has an office in S Africa and one in Lexington KY so we travel quite a bit, I have business (and pleasure) dealings all over the world and I don't mind visiting when necessary. I see CRAP being sold everywhere. Tourists have money to spend on trash, so they buy trash in Scotland, Mexico, Argentina, Botswana, Australia, I could go on forever. Those who want authentic study and pay accordingly.
Breeks are fairly expensive as well. Retailers here want $179 and up. I am still kicking myself for not having a nice pair made when the dollar was worth something.
David
I am completely aware that tourist trash is sold the world over David but its trash competing with other trash. And no matter that the name of the place on the souvenir is its probably been made in China. 
Not trash competing with quality. You show me another place where you have trash kilt shops passing off the impression that their wares are genuinely Scottish (thanks to the misleading labelling) and those with the real home made article and I will believe you that Edinburgh is not unique in that respect. Economics is one thing, economics with ethics is another.
If you want to buy a particular TV for example it's the same entity no matter where you find it and no matter what the price difference for it may be between suppliers (and these difference can indeed be substantial). Golds are not selling the same entity but are trying to give the impression that they are.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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8th March 08, 10:28 AM
#3
If it's not Scottish, it's crap!!!

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8th March 08, 02:00 PM
#4
Much of the "discussions" regarding the "Gold Bros" is little more than bigotry motivated by economic desire and want of racially defined privilege. The same kind of talk one would have heard 100 years ago. The simple truth is: much of the textile industry in the U.K.--- including much of the Scottish industry--- has been since the late 19th century driven by migrants (and not just household names of today such as Burtons, Burberry, Marks and Spencer).
A suit is not a suit and a pair of pants are not a pair of pants, not all shoes are the same and kilts are not all the same. Does the availability of $30 suits have any impact of the business of Brioni, Kiton or Oxxford for $4000+ suits? Does the availability of $10 plastic shoes effect the business of Alden ($350-600+ shoes)? Absolutely NOT.
The "Gold Bros" sell cheap ("Tartan tat") kilts quite legitimately. "Designed in Scotland"? How about those $100 USD Adidas, Puma, Nike etc. training shoes? Made in Viet Nam, Thailand, Bangladesh, China! Designed (perhaps) in USA.. perhaps not.. How about all those $500-$600 designer suits? Most are made in China? How about U.S. colonial furniture? Nearly all of it: Made in China. And that Apple iPod? "Designed in California, Made in China".
Pakistani kilts? What do you think those replica (WPG) kilts are made? And most of the economy and "frugal" kilts mentioned here? ALL of them!
Are the "Gold Bros" cheating tourists selling them something different from what they think it is? Absolutely NOT. You think Scots don't buy these cheap kilts? Of course they do.. Cheap imported kilts, sporrans etc., shoes made in India or China. Food from discount shops with questionable economic and labour policies. Is the US any different? How often do I see the name "WalMart" mentioned in this forum!
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8th March 08, 11:23 AM
#5
If the Gold Brothers are barred from trading in Edinburgh, how much more business will the traditional kilt shop made or will they force to sell cheap kilts because the tourists can't afford the 'real one.'
Tourists buy kilts because they want to bring home a piece of Scotland with them, but not all of them can afford hand sewn creations with them.
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8th March 08, 11:15 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by Frank McGrath
Ford sold Jaguar to an India based auto manufacturer. Is nothing sacred?
What is wrong with that? India is a growing economic power in the far east. In the business world, money talks. They have the money and probably have a good business plan. They also own Land Rover as well. I am sure these guys will respect the brand just as much as Ford, if not more. India is not a country that any one should look down upon.
Jaguar was once owned by the British government and they almost ran it to the ground. Just because the Brand is own by British, that doesn't mean the brand will be ran properly.
Last edited by Raphael; 8th March 08 at 11:23 AM.
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