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    My first kilt was/is Black Watch.
    I like it, I respect the regiment, espicially the original Ladies From Hell who charged out of the trenches in WWI wearing said kilt.

    Robert, I know that some individuals erroneously think the Watch (then known as the 43rd RoF) had something to do with Culloden, and thus dislike the tartan. In fact the Watch was not brought back from the continent until November 1745, and were then stationed in Kent in case France's Marshal Saxe & his 12, 000 men actually made their threatened invasion.
    (Another train of thought as to why the Watch was kept away from the Jacobite rebellion was that as many as 300 of the privates had close relatives /or friends within the Jacobite forces.)

    Some individuals tend to confuse the Black Watch with the Argyll Militia, which was at Culloden.

    Even though the Modern (or Green) Mackay tartan is not based upon the Black Watch per say, there are many within the US branch who will not wear it because to them it resembles the Black Watch tartan, all part of this Culloden train of thought, which is ironic when in fact the Mackays supported the Crown & had two independent companies that were active in the north, one of which stopped supplies & money from reaching Prince Charlie's forces in March 1746
    [SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]

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    I know that Gordon is based off the Black Watch, but they're two separate tartans with separate histories. It is all personal preference, and I simply do not prefer the Black Watch.

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    I like my Black Watch kilt, it's green and blue and black.
    "Lads, we're outnumbered, surrounded, and will all likely die tomorrow, but I have good news!"

    "I just found a bunch of whiskey in the castle cellar!"

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    I think it isn't one of my favorites because it is one of the most common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoldHighlander View Post
    My first kilt was/is Black Watch.
    I like it, I respect the regiment, espicially the original Ladies From Hell who charged out of the trenches in WWI wearing said kilt.

    Robert, I know that some individuals erroneously think the Watch (then known as the 43rd RoF) had something to do with Culloden, and thus dislike the tartan. In fact the Watch was not brought back from the continent until November 1745, and were then stationed in Kent in case France's Marshal Saxe & his 12, 000 men actually made their threatened invasion.
    (Another train of thought as to why the Watch was kept away from the Jacobite rebellion was that as many as 300 of the privates had close relatives /or friends within the Jacobite forces.)

    Some individuals tend to confuse the Black Watch with the Argyll Militia, which was at Culloden.

    Even though the Modern (or Green) Mackay tartan is not based upon the Black Watch per say, there are many within the US branch who will not wear it because to them it resembles the Black Watch tartan, all part of this Culloden train of thought, which is ironic when in fact the Mackays supported the Crown & had two independent companies that were active in the north, one of which stopped supplies & money from reaching Prince Charlie's forces in March 1746
    Thank You for this sharp answer and brilliant demonstration.
    If we ever meet live I'm afraid we will have to spend the the whole day talking (and perhaps part of the night)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancienne Alliance View Post
    Thank You for this sharp answer and brilliant demonstration.
    If we ever meet live I'm afraid we will have to spend the the whole day talking (and perhaps part of the night)

    Robert
    Indeed, I look forward to that moment in time!
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    [SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]

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    Here are my thoughts on the Black Watch tartan:
    It's dull, bland, low contrast, it's horribly generic, and there are those who dislike it because of its connection to the Black Watch itself...

    However, I was born a Campbell, I'll die a Campbell, and as long as I'm a Campbell I'll wear my clan tartan with pride.

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    BW is ubiquitous. I find it handsome and for me it has no negative associations. That said, its very commoness keeps it low on my kilt wish-list. I respect the soldiers who have worn it. Everyone's tastes differ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanook View Post
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    Not familiar with the term Sialkotis....what's that?
    It don't mean a thing, if you aint got that swing!!
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    When I got my BW/Grant Hunting kilt I got it in the ancient colours. I think it looks way better and is far less common.
    William Grant
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