Amazing Grace

**Ancienne Alliance** · 16th March 08, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by JS Sanders

That seems to be the cornemuse she's playing. The piper imparts an almost Dixieland flavor to the tune.

I play that tune as much as several times weekly and make a bushel basket of money doing it.

On the other hand, it's OK if I never hafta hear or pipe it ever again.

Slainte,
steve

Hi steve,

It's not a cornemuse.
I would think it something more like Flemmish Pipes or some kind of Dudelsack. Jean Blanchard says they're probably Border Pipes, but I think the tenor drone stock is to far to the rear for it to be so.

Slàinte madh,
Robert

**wgority** · 19th March 08, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Ancienne Alliance

Hi steve,

It's not a cornemuse.
I would think it something more like Flemmish Pipes or some kind of Dudelsack. Jean Blanchard says they're probably Border Pipes, but I think the tenor drone stock is to far to the rear for it to be so.

Slàinte madh,
Robert

Robert,

My thought is that they are quite similar to the student pipes made by a number of people such as Franz Hattink, Jon Swayne and Sean Jones. It could have been made by any one of them, or at least 3 others I can recall. All of the pipes of this type (at least in my experience) are based around the central French musette chanter and tend to be in the key of G. They usually only have a single bass drone pitched an octave below the bottom fundamental note of the chanter.

Bill

Bill

**JerseyLawyer** · 19th March 08, 05:11 PM

I think it's quite interesting. Not my cup of tea, really, but I appreciate the musicality of it. The comments, of course, are amusing as well, though not in a good way. This, for example:

This should be made compulsory viewing/listening for all Scottish bagpipe players who seem to be proud of an ability to play their national instrument with no rhythm or soul.

I'd almost like to send him a copy of Shott's "By the Water's Edge" or some other 'good' CD, so that he can hear what real piping sounds like.

Some bands - pipe bands, that is - have been playing Amazing Grace as a 4/4 march. I think it's been replaced now as the flavor de jour with "Dawning of the Day". ;)

**The Ulsterman** · 19th March 08, 05:13 PM

That was certainly different

.......................kinda like Jim Motherwell meets Jimi Hendrix.

Neil.

**Ancienne Alliance** · 20th March 08, 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by wgority

Robert,

My thought is that they are quite similar to the student pipes made by a number of people such as Franz Hattink, Jon Swayne and Sean Jones. It could have been made by any one of them, or at least 3 others I can recall. All of the pipes of this type (at least in my experience) are based around the central French musette chanter and tend to be in the key of G. They usually only have a single bass drone pitched an octave below the bottom fundamental note of the chanter.

Bill

Bill

Thank you Bill.
Jon is an old friend. I know his pipes well. We played togetter many a time .
I met Franz Hattink . I'm not sure for Sean Jones. How old is Sean ?

**davedove** · 20th March 08, 04:47 AM

This is one of the occasions where I can appreciate the concept and the talent, but do not care for the final product.

However, I will concede that many times this is just pre-existing expectations. Sometimes a person is just so used to hearing a piece done a certain way, and anything that is too far removed from that just doesn't resonate.

**michaelbeeman** · 20th March 08, 07:08 AM

I simply don't know. Yes, the talent is obvious. The rendition? I'm just not sure. I think, maybe, the crowds reaction put me off more. Laughing at Amazing Grace? I think I've seen too many good men and women Piped on to the hereafter to ever be comfortable with that.

**Ian.MacAllan** · 20th March 08, 08:28 PM

It reminded me of Jack Benny & his violin. I suspect that a musician must be truly talented to carry off such butchery.

.

**wgority** · 22nd March 08, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by Ancienne Alliance

Thank you Bill.
Jon is an old friend. I know his pipes well. We played togetter many a time .
I met Franz Hattink . I'm not sure for Sean Jones. How old is Sean ?

Robert,

Sean is a young player/maker whom I just met last year. He's making some absurdly nice instruments that have great tuning and lovely tone. Check out his wares if you have the chance.

http://www.jonesinstruments.co.uk/Home.htm

Bill

**BoldHighlander** · 22nd March 08, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by wgority

Robert,

Sean is a young player/maker whom I just met last year. He's making some absurdly nice instruments that have great tuning and lovely tone. Check out his wares if you have the chance.

http://www.jonesinstruments.co.uk/Home.htm

Bill

What a neat site!
Thanks for the link.