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10th September 08, 10:03 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by Master K9
Being former active military service myownself, USMC...I can say that someone would run the risk of being acosted while wearing an item of clothing resembling an elite armed forces article. Understand the elites have an informal motto, "If you didn't earn it, you can't wear it."
Do the Army Rangers ever wear a Balmoral on ocassion? If so there may be a conflict.
Just sayin'..... But I've had my eye on the black'un.
One account says that after the US Rangers trained with their British Commando counterparts at the Commando school at Achnacarry, Scotland, the Rangers were authorized to wear the British Commando Green Beret with a "flash" or square of Cameron of Erracht tartan (Achnacarry is Cameron country) --- but it was never approved by the higher-ups.
Regards,
Todd
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10th September 08, 11:07 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
One account says that after the US Rangers trained with their British Commando counterparts at the Commando school at Achnacarry, Scotland, the Rangers were authorized to wear the British Commando Green Beret with a "flash" or square of Cameron of Erracht tartan (Achnacarry is Cameron country) --- but it was never approved by the higher-ups.
Regards,
Todd
This is somewhat interesting for a couple of reasons that I will detail:
1. As you may know, I am a WWII Reenactor and the one and only unit that has picked my interest is precisely (coincidentally?) the 5th Ranger Infantry Battalion.
2. Because of the extensive research done about this specific unit, I ended up being an honorary member of the WWII Rangers Sons & Daughters Association.
3. During the 2004 Ranger Battalions Reunion in Ft. Wayne, IN we were invited to attend by the surviving members of the 5th RIB and of course we (about 15 of us) showed up in our WWII gear, brought everything we had for the vets to reminisce and enjoy.
4. After a couple of days talking with roughly 50 surviving Rangers from all 6 Battalions, we came out with a lot of first hand history and accounts, one of them being the story of the 1st RIB training with the Commandos at Achnacarry, stationed at both Kanes and Tighnabruaich. Their direct training was supervised not by the Commandos, but by the Scottish Rifles Cameronian Regiment, and indeed, when they completed their course, they were given a Black Beret, a Commando patch, a knife and a Cameronian Patch.
5. The US Army did not originally intend to have the 1st RIB function as a standalone unit but rather disband them and augment the force by mixing the new 'Commandos' within the regular Companies, Battalions and Regiments (a la 29th Ranger Regiment) so there was never an effort to have an insignia developed.
6. When it became clear the 1st RIB would be more effective as a standalone unit, it was decided to have an insignia, and not wanting to go with either Commandos or using the Cameronian insignia, they developed one of their own... the Ranger Scroll, which has remained essentially unchanged until now.
7. At the end of the 2004 Reunion, we were called aside by the vets of the 5th RIB (which we 'reenact') and were given both a Scroll and a Ranger Diamond patch and made honorary 5th Rangers.


Yours truly on the right. The guy on the left is a real life Ranger, who also reenacts the 5th RIB
With all this said, I will also offer some of my personal history, I was in the Chilean Army for a 2 year stint as a Paratrooper with the 2nd Para Battalion, and after that I enrolled in the Air Force Academy from where I graduated as an ECM officer. Served 4 years and that was that.
I would never pretend to wear a Ranger beret, or wear any of the Ranger patches we were 'invested' with by the 5th RIB vets even though they would want us to. As much as I personally appreciate those 'ole SOB'.
And on the other hand, I did earn my Paratrooper Black Beret and Wings, which I'm still debating about pinning to my new Balmoral.
I guess what im trying to say is, IF, IF I ever wear anything 'military' it will be based on my own service, and if it offends anyone because the colors are the same or the wings are this or that, well, I'm sorry, but I'm still wearing my earned items.
wow, what a long reply, sorry!
Last edited by hospitaller; 10th September 08 at 11:13 AM.
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10th September 08, 11:08 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
One account says that after the US Rangers trained with their British Commando counterparts at the Commando school at Achnacarry, Scotland, the Rangers were authorized to wear the British Commando Green Beret with a "flash" or square of Cameron of Erracht tartan (Achnacarry is Cameron country) --- but it was never approved by the higher-ups.
Regards,
Todd
I remember the Rangers well! They were a tough outfit, but they really disliked the combination of our midgies and rain! I well remember talking to a Ranger veteran,years later at the Commando Monument, who thought that the combination of those hazards and British instructors prepared him for anything! Strangely enough we dug up some live 30-06 ammo the other day which must have belonged to the Rangers as "we" used .303 ammo-----we find loads of that,still!
Last edited by Jock Scot; 10th September 08 at 11:16 AM.
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10th September 08, 11:12 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
...we dug up some live 30-06 ammo the other day which must have belonged to the Rangers as "we" used .303 ammo-----we find loads of that,still!
Just imagine the poor buggers in France.. they still find arty shells from the Great War, well ploughing their fields.
Frank
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