The fun of adoption...

[gilmore]

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"The notion that only genetic connections are normative and worthy of genealogical research is no longer applicable."

That's what you wrote, and that's merely your opinion, one that seems to be pretty much out there all by itself. ....

Not at all. See post number 20 above in this thread, in which facts are set out supporting the position I stated.

The rest of your post doesn't, IMHO, merit a response. It is quite possible to disagree without being disagreeable.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Has there been discussion of a dedicated forum or sub-forum for genealogical threads? They come up fairly regularly.

I'd be in favor-- despite "locking horns" with Gil from time to time I value his opinions and those of others re: genealogy.

That said, the only thing more boring than my own genealogy is somebody else's genealogy, so I wouldn't particularly want it to become a "searching for descendants of" sort of thread.

My Ancient, but ignoble blood
Has flow'd through Scoundrels since the Flood

Robert Burns' reply when asked about his ancestry.

[Larry124]

... the only thing more boring than my own genealogy is somebody else's genealogy,...
My Ancient, but ignoble blood
Has flow'd through Scoundrels since the Flood
-- Robert Burns' reply when asked about his ancestry.

Good thought & quote.

[freddie]

I was adopted, and although my adopted parents are my 'Ma' and 'Pa' in every sense of the word (and I couldn't have wished for better) blood, I'm afraid, is thicker than water. My adopted (Father's) name has no clan connection whatsoever, whereas my bio Father was a true clansman (I put great store in facial recogntion and he has the classic 'clan look') and it is to his clan that I feel I belong, and feel a sense of real pride when I wear his tartan. Of course I don't wear this tartan when in the presence of my adopted Mother (my adopted Father sadly died years ago) so I have to have more than one kilt, one in the tartan of my true blood line and others in the tartans of my adopted Mother's lines. The only clan crest I ever wear though is that of my bio Father's clan.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

I was adopted, and although my adopted parents are my 'Ma' and 'Pa' in every sense of the word (and I couldn't have wished for better) blood, I'm afraid, is thicker than water. My adopted (Father's) name has no clan connection whatsoever, whereas my bio Father was a true clansman (I put great store in facial recogntion and he has the classic 'clan look') and it is to his clan that I feel I belong, and feel a sense of real pride when I wear his tartan. Of course I don't wear this tartan when in the presence of my adopted Mother (my adopted Father sadly died years ago) so I have to have more than one kilt, one in the tartan of my true blood line and others in the tartans of my adopted Mother's lines. The only clan crest I ever wear though is that of my bio Father's clan.

You are obviously a gentleman.

[Scotus]

That said, the only thing more boring than my own genealogy is somebody else's genealogy, so I wouldn't particularly want it to become a "searching for descendants of" sort of thread.

I think it would become a genealogy forum within a kilt forum and would spin off course (just as this thread has from it's original subject). IMO, in the context of this public forum, genealogy only relates as far as clans and tartans. There are a lot of genealogy forums on the Internet. Those of us who have a lot of experience in the field go to those places to discuss the public aspects of genealogy.

Freddie, your comments were very well put.

I'll now leave this topic, as I think enough has been said (by me, at least)

[Bryan]

As far as adoption and tartans are concerned, I see it like this. I have a decent amount of Scottish ancestry of my own on my father's side. My wife comes from a predominantly Scottish/Irish family and to honor her, I have a kilt made in the Lamont tartan. I feel that since marrying my wife all those years ago, I became part of her family, so the tartan, in a sense, becomes mine as well. Adoption could be viewed similarly. You are brought into a family that wanted you, so their familial ties become yours, regardless of your blood origins.

[Rogerson785]

I have to agree with Bryan.

I think if you like a particular tartan wear it and as stated many times before you should know a little something about what you are wearing, not just because the color goes well with your red hair etc.. However, if your father was a Gordon and your uncle MacIver / McIver then you should be able to wear either clan’s tartan and wear them with pride.

That’s just my two cents worth.

As far as adoption and tartans are concerned, I see it like this. I have a decent amount of Scottish ancestry of my own on my father's side. My wife comes from a predominantly Scottish/Irish family and to honor her, I have a kilt made in the Lamont tartan. I feel that since marrying my wife all those years ago, I became part of her family, so the tartan, in a sense, becomes mine as well. Adoption could be viewed similarly. You are brought into a family that wanted you, so their familial ties become yours, regardless of your blood origins.