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13th December 08, 12:34 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by beloitpiper
That's why Star Wars is better -- it has a "retrofitted future" look to it. Star Trek looks to clean and polished, as it was, well, built brand new.
Big difference, basically apples to oranges. Let's take a closer look. Star Wars was basically a story of rebels trying to overthrow a government. Their budget was a bit on the restricted side, so they patched and fixed what they could with what they could find. So the rebels always looked like their ships were a bit shoddy. They were a bit rag tag. Now take a look at the Empire. Everything of the Empire was clean, polished, and shiny. They had the budget. They were able to keep it looking sweet and always in good shape.
Now take a look at Star Trek. The Enterprise is funded by Star Fleet, which has a huge budget. Therefore, much like the Empire in Star Wars, they are able to keep things looking nice and neat. They have the resources to fix things properly. They are not a rag-tag bunch of rebels.
That being said, I do recall the Enterprise being messed up on a few occasions and it looked pretty rough for a while there. The crew also got worked over. But, that ship was either blown up or fixed and the crew made it home. They got a new ship, cause, they have an unlimited budget.
Also, the rebels in Star Wars were the bad guys. There, I said it. Let the futuristic flame war begin. :P
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13th December 08, 12:56 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by Galb
Also, the rebels in Star Wars were the bad guys. There, I said it. Let the futuristic flame war begin. :P
Oh, I rather agree. I argued that Beowulf was the real villain.
Look at the Empire. The places they are not at war with seem to be rather peaceful, and unified. But in the episodes 1-3, you see the world before the Empire was chaotic, the Jedi worked to maintain peace, but planets were at war with each other, and the Jedi had to intervene. The Empire met resistance, but it did bring peace. Was Vader all that different than King Arthur? (Either the historic or the mythical) Different than Caesar? Was he taking to the dark side anywhere near that of Caligula?
I once read in a book that darkness and light are the opposite of as we see them, light is chaos, as it is everything combining and confusing to make white light, but darkness is pure and clean. What if the dark side wasn't really the dark side? It's emotions are pure. Not the jumbles of duty to the light side of the force.
And to keep in in the realm of kilts, at least those robot stealing freaks didn't worry about pants. (Nor did the Romans I referenced earlier. Arthur, eh, hard to say, the romanticized version puts him in the middle ages, with tights or armor. The more historical one lived in a wooden fortress, and I think one of the possible regions for there may have had leggings. Or he could have ran around naked like some of the Roman soldiers, or robes, or who knows..)
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13th December 08, 10:29 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by sathor
Oh, I rather agree...Look at the Empire. The places they are not at war with seem to be rather peaceful, and unified.
You know, Iran (for the moment) is peaceful too, but would you call Ahmadinejad a good guy?
Then again, I love rebels and revolutionaries, so I'm a big fan of the Rebel Alliance in Star Wars.
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