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                                                13th January 09, 12:40 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					As I'm sure most of you will agree, whether they came from Europe or Africa or Asia or anywhere else, most of us come from a long line of people.
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                                                13th January 09, 01:04 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					You didn't mention the Romans. Bloody Roman. They made it to Brittan, and you know some freaked out early Brits (I forget what 'tribe' they would have been) probably fled north, and intermarried, and I'm sure some Romans left some, um, souvenirs, when they left. And those Romans really liked to mix things up....
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Phil   I doubt if anyone could claim a pure-blooded succession as the whole history of the human race has been founded upon migration and conquest  and subsequent colonisation and America is just one of the most recent examples of that (along with Australia and Africa). Scotland itself has experienced similar events with the Picts being usurped by the Scots (from Ireland) at the same time as the Norsemen (Vikings) followed by the Normans (yet more Vikings). Recent migrations have been less intrusive, perhaps because the climate is inimical to people from the Caribbean, Asia and Africa but anyone claiming to be a pure-blooded Scot is probably deluding themselves. Scots over the past few hundred years have settled and inter-married in all parts of the world and brought their own particular values and ideas with them. It was Scots who valued and fostered education for all above all else, who decried the class system so beloved of the English ("The man's a man for a that") and these are sentiments ingrained into the Scottish psyche. If you too espouse these values then who is to say you don't have Scottish blood somewhere in your veins. 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                13th January 09, 01:36 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	There's another stereotype blown, no horns or wings on those helmets except in fantasy art.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Riverkilt   Crack me up Todd...
 So it all goes back to Scandanavian....Viking Scot, Viking Noman....where's that horned helmet???
 
 Ron
 
 Bob
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                                                13th January 09, 02:09 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	If we can live with tartans at the ren fest, we can have our horned helms dagonit!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Smayniac   There's another stereotype blown, no horns or wings on those helmets except in fantasy art.
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                                                13th January 09, 02:18 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	What did the Romans ever do for us?
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by sathor   You didn't mention the Romans. Bloody Roman. They made it to Brittan, and you know some freaked out early Brits (I forget what 'tribe' they would have been) probably fled north, and intermarried, and I'm sure some Romans left some, um, souvenirs, when they left. And those Romans really liked to mix things up.... Daft Wullie, ye do hae the brains o’ a beetle, an’ I’ll fight any scunner who says different!
 
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                13th January 09, 02:20 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Ron, I was in the same boat.  I learned that the Gordons were Norman, and I was shocked.  Then I got a DNA test which certified me Celtic.  So even though the chief was from Normandy doesn't mean everybody in the septs were also.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                13th January 09, 02:22 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health?
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Tony   What did the Romans ever do for us? 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                13th January 09, 02:23 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Ever hear of that place next door to Normandy called Brittany?
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by beloitpiper   Ron, I was in the same boat.  I learned that the Gordons were Norman, and I was shocked.  Then I got a DNA test which certified me Celtic.  So even though the chief was from Normandy doesn't mean everybody in the septs were also.  
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                                                13th January 09, 02:23 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	now the answer I would love to give, instead of the one that was set up.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Tony   What did the Romans ever do for us? 
 Funny metal Kilts?
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                13th January 09, 02:35 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	You better hold up on the research or you're gonna go broke
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Riverkilt   ......So, with increasing knowledge I've gone from believing my family is Scottish to now believing we're French-Scandanavian....
 More tartans to buy now....
   
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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