Magazine The Moment - Mens Fashion - Kilts

[7 miles]

Why do they all look dead? I wear a kilt and it makes me feel alive.

[Nick the DSM]

please don't let the kilt become a fashion! PLLLEEAAAAASSSSE!!!

[chasem]

please don't let the kilt become a fashion! PLLLEEAAAAASSSSE!!!

Don't think you have to worry about that... as these "kilts" look nothing like true kilts.

[SteveB]

Some of those things look like the stuff Goodwill threw in the dust bin, then someone drove over them in a truck leaking oil, then got wrapped around some young men that look like they are not pleased with the "fashion" either. Send them to P1M's dos and don'ts thread.
Slainte,
Steve

[Nick the DSM]

Don't think you have to worry about that... as these "kilts" look nothing like true kilts.

Think of the future!! First it'll be this, then soon...THE KILT!!!

Yeah, I'm exagerating(sp??).

[piperdbh]

As we say in Western North Carolina, "They, law have mercy!"

[Nanook]

Don't think you have to worry about that... as these "kilts" look nothing like true kilts.

They don't look like "true kilts" since they are NOT "true kilts" but skirts intended, one way or another, to be worn by men--- by design or by the intent of placing the said garment on a man. But are those "kilts" from the Pacific Northwest any more kilts than these skirts? Highland dress they are all not.. but then most clothing worn by most people in Scotland is not Highland dress either...
In all fairness, however, we need recall that most shorter skirts (including all knee length) that are widely considered the standard of womenswear are--- less so than their pants (which can be traced to woman's trousers as seen in portraits from the Sui and Tang dynasties where we see also Hufu style and military influences)--- firmly based upon men's garments. Skirts (most with a direct heritage to the kilt), tights (a men's garment until new production methods allowed the developed of cheap nylon "panty hose" in the late 1950s and then throwing back into pattern paired by Mary Quant with mini-skirts in the mid 1960s), pumps (based upon court shoes), high heels (quite fashionable for both men and women in the 17th century and the source of the phrase "well heeled").. for that matter wigs (worn by court judges in the UK for the past 300 years) and even make-up were a man's domain throughout most of history--- albeit, at different times, shared with women.
Do these outfits look good? I don't care for Marc Jacob's style.. in shorts or skirts, sandals or high heels..
Are these styles for the mainstream... As has often been pointed out over the past 40 years of trying to bring short skirts (back then the Dorcus He-Skirt), as the logical next step after getting acceptance of "Bermuda shorts" to men... one needs the right legs... (same can be said of women).. Not quite the formula for an increasingly sedate and obese "mainstream"..
Yet another failed marketing blitz even after the well received "Men in Skirts" show? Or is it different this time? Times are, I think, changing.. If sales of male cosmetics, tights for men, non-facial hair removal trends and the number of pictures showing up in the popular fan and movie magazines are a gauge.. then.. perhaps.. perhaps.. perhaps...

[ccga3359]

Why do they all look dead? I wear a kilt and it makes me feel alive.

So I quess some guys would be caught dead in those get-ups.

[O'Callaghan]

Fashion concepts on runways are almost always extreme and would never be worn by anyone in RL. That's true both of women's outfits and of conventional men's outfits with trousers, so why should we expect them to depart from that principle when they are showing manskirts/kilts? I'd be more surprised if they showed anything sensible that would actually sell.

They are just showcasing their design talent so that people will buy ordinary wearable clothes from them, and I doubt if it provides all that much evidence that they think men's clothes without two legs in them are in the latter category, although it could be a sort of 'trial balloon'.

[Nanook]

Fashion concepts on runways are almost always extreme and would never be worn by anyone in RL.

Depends really upon the show. Most shows these days-- fashion just like automobile, boating, computer, etc.-- are about selling product. Not even the "haut couture" shows are still just about "design concepts". The Prêt-à-porter shows however were always about selling product. The objects as seen are not available to immediate consumers but shops through their buyers. Large dept stores and chains have their own buyers and for small boutiques there are middle men to fill the role of buyer (sometimes working directly for the fashion house). Shops all need a unique article so even the same basic design sold to two stores in competing areas will demand (and get) slightly different products. Buyers, in turn, are under constant appraisal by their employers (or customers) and so are motivated to get what sells--- and bribes from the fashion houses do enter the picture--- or, at least, not make too many purchasing mistakes.

I'd be more surprised if they showed anything sensible that would actually sell.

But that's the whole point of the shows: to sell. That does not, of course, mean that what they are selling is always about what you might see as news-blips. The "blips" are about getting into the news and skirts and extreme models has been a recipe over the past few years. When Marc Jacobs shows up in skirts and high heels is not about selling the skirts or high heels but about getting the product "Marc Jacobs" in the news. This raises the value of the brand which makes, for example, the buyers at Barneys happy who sell the shoes, skirts and tights albeit not from Marc Jacobs as well as Louis Vuitton (Jacobs is currently chief designer) and Marc Jacobs branded clothing.

I doubt if it provides all that much evidence that they think men's clothes without two legs in them are in the latter category, although it could be a sort of 'trial balloon'.

Menswear have been itching to sell skirts for decades. Its about fashion and the more fashionable one can get men to dress and the more flux one can introduce the bigger the potential market. Mens fashion has become more "fashionable" over the past 40 years but its still relatively conservative. The industry needs to find ways to motivate men to keep up with styles and clothing trends--- and then introduce trends to keep consumption running. Again we are talking about a $50 billion USD market with tremendous growth potential. Throw in the observation that male disposable income is higher than female and..