Watch fob

[csbdr]

I am trying to put together a nice pocket watch and chain for when I get dressed up. I picked up this old fob on ebay and was wondering if anyone can make out the tartan, or the crest? crest is a bit dicey...I'd like to be able to say what it is if anyone asks. Thanks!

[csbdr]

back side...

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Well, the arms are those of the English branch of the Innes family. The give away is the crest-- a Wyvern issuant from a ducal coronet. The arms of Innes, and several other Morayshire families, are known as "Arms of dominion"; in other words they are based on the territorial arms of the feudal superior-- in this case Freskin de Moravia. In the arms of Innes, MacMillan, and several other Morayshire families who share the three mullets, the tinctures of the Moravia (now Murray) arms are reversed, hence Innes (in Scotland) is Argent three mullets two and one Azure.

The pendant is likely to have been supplied through one of the turn of the century tartan houses, such as Renton's on Princes Street in Edinburgh. I am, alas, unable to offer a positive identification of the tartan, but would venture it might have been generic, rather then specific to the Inneses.

[csbdr]

Amazing! Thank you. That was much more that I had bargained for and very interesting. I looked up the Innes tartan and no match.

[Bugbear]

That's an interesting concept to put tartan and possiblely something like a clan badge on a watch fob.

[macwilkin]

That's an interesting concept to put tartan and possiblely something like a clan badge on a watch fob.

Not necessarily, Ted. It's quite common among fraternal societies such as the Masons, Odd Fellows, Knights of Pythias, etc. The most famous example is the Elks Lodge, where many members wore elk's teeth as a fob.

Regards,

Todd

[Bugbear]

Not necessarily, Ted. It's quite common among fraternal societies such as the Masons, Odd Fellows, Knights of Pythias, etc. The most famous example is the Elks Lodge, where many members wore elk's teeth as a fob.

Regards,

Todd

Well, I guess when I have a kilt made, I could take one of the leftover scraps of my tartan, and put it on a fob locket etc. I like that because then you would have the tartan with you whether you are wearing the kilt or not. Perhaps with something a bit like a clan badge as well; there's some things that could be adapted for that with my tartan.

[Deil the Yin]

Looks like costume jewelry to me, but I wouldn't let that put you off wearing it. It looks cool, and should be right smart with your kit...

[csbdr]

Looks like costume jewelry to me, but I wouldn't let that put you off wearing it. It looks cool, and should be right smart with your kit...

What I know is it came out of an estate, and looks to be old sterling although not hallmarked. Not pictured is a very attractive and handmade looking bit of chain, in the form of a bracelet. also has the appearance of sterling, although looks can be decieving. This piece is 1 1/2 inches in diameter. we'll see when it's in hand.

[csbdr]

Not necessarily, Ted. It's quite common among fraternal societies such as the Masons, Odd Fellows, Knights of Pythias, etc. The most famous example is the Elks Lodge, where many members wore elk's teeth as a fob.

Regards,

Todd

in fact, if you search ebay for watch fob, this type of thing is mostly what comes up. Tons of fraternals, medals for this and that, etc.