Thoughts on an odd tie

**Dan R Porter** · 12th May 09, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by Nick

The collar also is not starched well, it's drooping.

was that a joke or a serious observation?

**Nick** · 12th May 09, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by Dan R Porter

was that a joke or a serious observation?

That was a serious observation. A wing collar should be heavily starched and ironed, otherwise it loses its shape. There are some collars that are not supposed to be starched, but I don't think they don't hold their shape as well.

**Dan R Porter** · 12th May 09, 08:26 AM

I hope you never have to look into my closet.

**starbkjrus** · 12th May 09, 10:46 AM

I have two of them and love them. Since they are pre-tied however I would never wear one with a wing collar shirt. Argyle / Braemar jacket, five button waistcoat and fold over collar shirt is the only way I'll wear one.

**The Barry** · 12th May 09, 11:08 AM

I wear a cravat to formal events with a five button waistcoat. It's a great look. The cravat looks awkward with a three button waistcoat, you really need the five button to make it look right.

**Bugbear** · 12th May 09, 12:04 PM

Anyone ever wear an old fashion stock with Highland attire?

**Jack Daw** · 12th May 09, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Ted Crocker

Anyone ever wear an old fashion stock with Highland attire?

I have a black stock that I have worn with my period wear and great kilt.

**Bugbear** · 12th May 09, 01:43 PM

Sorry, I meant outside of the historical and reenactment realm... Like with a dress Argyle and five-button waistcoat, or something like that.

**MacMillan of Rathdown** · 12th May 09, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome

For the Burns Suppers I attended this past January, I acquired an honest-to-goodness, tie it youself, black silk cravat. I also bought a dress shirt with an honest-to-goodness detachable wing collar. I was very happy with the look. I wore it with a black Argyle jacket.

Here it is with a black waistcoat (5 button, notched lapel).

The look is great, without being contrived, and there isn't "a whiff of the phoniness" of the earlier photo.

Gentlemen, take note, and do follow Matt's example.

**KFCarter** · 12th May 09, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown

The look is great, without being contrived, and there isn't "a whiff of the phoniness" of the earlier photo.

Gentlemen, take note, and do follow Matt's example.

Totally agree. Matt's look is refined, the lines are harmonious and the whole effect is very classy.