New Royal Regiment Of Scotland Dress Regs

[KFCarter]

Fantastic link... saving this one! thanks.

[Na Heilthirich]

These dress regs should carry a Government health warning: "Not to be read by former RSMs of the Scottish Regiments with dicky tickers!"

I can certainly imagine some of my former RSMs collapsing in fits of apoplexy if they read it.

Firstly the document appears to have been written by someone so afraid of the Grocer's Apostrophe that he has gone too far the other way. Right from the first paragraph, below a portrait of HM we have a reference to the Queens uniform. I know it's OK to be gay now in the British Armed Forces, but do we really want a uniform specifically for queens?

The kilts look like they have been bought from Gold Brothers at £25 a piece, vide the pleating of the officer's kilt on p. 7. The soldier on p. 11's legs are dressed so highly (and his kilt so long) that the legs are barely visible. I can imagine my old RSM shouting "Are ye feeling the cauld, laddie? Have ye borrowed yer mammy's tights?" Likewise, his jacket on p. 21 is so poorly tailored with so much excess material at the chest, it looks like it's tailored for a woman.

On p. 23 the officer's glengarry looks like it's been put on with a steamhammer and his trews are so long they look like those leggings that were fashionable for women in the eighties. Perhaps his Sam Browne was last polished in the eighties as well. The officer's steamhammer has really revved up a gear by the time he uses it to put on his glengarry for p. 32.

[Jock Scot]

These dress regs should carry a Government health warning: "Not to be read by former RSMs of the Scottish Regiments with dicky tickers!"

I can certainly imagine some of my former RSMs collapsing in fits of apoplexy if they read it.

Firstly the document appears to have been written by someone so afraid of the Grocer's Apostrophe that he has gone too far the other way. Right from the first paragraph, below a portrait of HM we have a reference to the Queens uniform. I know it's OK to be gay now in the British Armed Forces, but do we really want a uniform specifically for queens?

The kilts look like they have been bought from Gold Brothers at £25 a piece, vide the pleating of the officer's kilt on p. 7. The soldier on p. 11's legs are dressed so highly (and his kilt so long) that the legs are barely visible. I can imagine my old RSM shouting "Are ye feeling the cauld, laddie? Have ye borrowed yer mammy's tights?" Likewise, his jacket on p. 21 is so poorly tailored with so much excess material at the chest, it looks like it's tailored for a woman.

On p. 23 the officer's glengarry looks like it's been put on with a steamhammer and his trews are so long they look like those leggings that were fashionable for women in the eighties. Perhaps his Sam Browne was last polished in the eighties as well. The officer's steamhammer has really revved up a gear by the time he uses it to put on his glengarry for p. 32.

As soldier of the early 1960's, I can't help but agree with you on dress standards-------but the lads of this century can still fight as well as they ever could. We should be very proud of them. I am, as I am quite sure that you are.

[Na Heilthirich]

As soldier of the early 1960's, I can't help but agree with you on dress standards-------but the lads of this century can still fight as well as they ever could. We should be very proud of them. I am, as I am quite sure that you are.

Indeed so.

[dfmacliam]

I agree the jackets on a few examples were ill fitting, especially sleeve length. I will also say, I am not a fan of rolled sleeves on a shirt, looks tacky, in my opinion. Combat dress is an exception. The history was good, and the placement of articles, was very informative. Sporran placement was helpful for me. Gig lines were covered and I try to pay attention to that even wearing my civies after all these years.
I also noticed the reference that the sgian dubh was not a weapon, but an ornemental item.
As a military man, I found this very interesting, comparing Scottish dress compared to US Marine dress.
We were issured the basic uniform, and dress blues as well as dress mess were individual purchased items, unless your duty required them. I was Marine Barracks for a time and we were issued dress blue deltas.. Sans the jacket. Wooly poolys were optional too, but most I knew had them.

[Chas]

Does anyone know if all of that is issued to every soldier?
Or do they have to buy some of it themselves
I.E. I had to buy my dress blues from cash sales upon graduating from Parris Island.

They buy some themselves, I believe.

Other ranks up to Warrant Officer are issued the uniform they need to do the job in hand. That is to say, if they will not be doing any ceremonial duties, then they are not issued with any ceremonial kit. After the tour of duty, un-required kit is returned to central stores waiting for re-issue to same or different person.

Commissioned Officers are issued kit from central stores in the same way but pay for theirs. They have the option of having some dress uniform made at private tailors.

Warrant officers fall into a totally different category. They hold the Queen's warrant rather than a commission, which is only a time limited contract between the officer and the Sovereign. There are many advantages to being a Warrant Officer. One of which is that they are exempt from close arrest. Regardless of the alleged crime; once they identify themselves as a Warrant Officer, they are placed under house arrest at the nearest Sargent's Mess, with the use of all the Mess facilities. As to uniform, I believe that all parts of kit that refer directly to the Warrant Officer (badges of rank and insignia) are paid for by the WO themselves - all other parts of uniform are issued as per the other ranks. But even this has a slight twist in as much as the WO does not own the badges of rank, but rents them from the Sovereign (rather than the Army, Navy or Air Force)

Regards

Chas

[Nervous Jock]

some uniform prices

http://www.gbeverleytailors.co.uk/officers.asp

http://www.goldings.co.uk/military_a...e=male_officer


Remember, mess kit, no shoulder boards, rank slides, sporran, tassels, brogues, hose, flashes, bunnet, shirt, tie, dhu, cane

[puffer]

This seems to be the new doc thats been issued

http://www.army.mod.uk/documents/gen..._Rulations.pdf

Thak you for this post. Even though it took me some time & several tries to downloadit, IT WAS WORTH IT

Puffer

[andyfg]

Thanks. Very informative. But in some of the pics the pleats were a disaster area!

[Wompet]

Very interesting - thank you for posting the link.
As a uniformed civilian (first generation not to be enlisted), I have to agree with the earlier remarks - some of those pictured are not up to dress standards.