Burgundy Bow Tie?

[Nick]

Believe me, if I were able to match the patterns on the two sides of the bow ties, I would be making my own from the four-in-hand ties.

I'm going to find a nice tie at a charity shop and give it a shot, I'm thinking the back of the bow would have to be cut parallel with the tie, and the front pieces perpendicular (as shown), otherwise I don't know how you'd get enough, unless the tie was one of those 70s belly-warmers.

I don't exactly understand the diamond pointed bow ties... are they tied the same? I know one side of the front bow has either the top or the bottom edge made from the end or tail behind it, depending on how it is tied. Do you fold the corner of the other side down to make it similar or something like that?

I only know about the regular bow ties that are tapered from a streight end.

They're shaped mostly the same, with a diamond on each end, instead of flat, but they're tied just the same. http://www.blacktieguide.com/Supplem...ary/blades.jpg

[Panache]

Any chance of a step by step masterclass? And possibly a pattern? I can work a needle and thread and a sewing machine. Just need the push in the right direction to do this myself.

Regards

Chas

Chas,

Take a look at this thread our own Kilted Photographer put up regaring making bow ties

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/d...x.html?t=44411

Heck, It's such a helpful thread I added it to Kilt Information Center

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/d....html?p=756174

Thanks Phil!

Cheers

Jamie :ootd:

[Bugbear]

Ya, see the new information guide on DIY bow ties by pdcorlis that Panache just put up.

As I understand it, part of the middle section around the back of the neck is not made of the tie material. I guess if the tie is being worn with a laydown collar, it doesn't matter if that part is the same as the rest of the tie.

And thinking about it, the diamond points could be tied such that they are extended passed the bows to show... Interesting.

[Nick]

Thanks Phil, and thanks Jamie, I missed that the first time around.

I have a couple bows that have the middle section made out of thin webbing with a sliding adjuster, as in the tutorial (the blade and about 3"-4" of the bow are the actual tie material, enough to tie the tie and have a bit under the collar). It's less bulky under the collar, and could help conserve material in a necktie conversion. I do prefer the sliding adjusters to the t-bar type, whether on a ribbon or fabric centre, they can be sized more accurately.

Here's a tip I found on turning bowties right side out to get sharp points. I haven't tried it yet, but I will soon.

http://www.burdastyle.com/howtos/show/1570

[Chas]

Thanks phil, and thanks jamie, i missed that the first time around.

Ditto - This is a great thread.

Regards

Chas

[Nick]

Here's one of the bowties I was talking about to illustrate:

[pdcorlis]

As I understand it, part of the middle section around the back of the neck is not made of the tie material. I guess if the tie is being worn with a laydown collar, it doesn't matter if that part is the same as the rest of the tie.

Hi Ted

Actually, since just one side of one piece of the tie is made from different material it can be worn facing your neck so it will work with any collar. Lots and lots of bows are constructed exactly this way.

[Bugbear]

That makes sense.

The blue with burgundy and other colored diamonds bow tie,I have, actually has a few twists across the back that are sewn into the tie. It's a thinner material than the burgundy tie, but it is not as wide at the ends, or it would be droupy.

The burgundy bow tie is made from a single length of fabric that is folded to make one side, and seamed on the ends and other side.

I can see how interfacing might help; I'll have to look into that...