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20th July 09, 04:30 PM
#11
 Originally Posted by Ted Crocker
Are the hose pulled up over the knee breeches, or do the legs go over the hose?
Neither. In these images you can see the gap between the two, because the hose look to be the same type of tartan "short hose" that would be worn with a kilt, not the over-the-knee stockings typically worn with knee-britches....
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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20th July 09, 05:27 PM
#12
 Originally Posted by Woodsheal
Neither. In these images you can see the gap between the two, because the hose look to be the same type of tartan "short hose" that would be worn with a kilt, not the over-the-knee stockings typically worn with knee-britches....
Oh, that's right the cadadh were shorter at one time...
That's interesting.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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20th July 09, 05:59 PM
#13
 Originally Posted by McMurdo
I couldn't help but note the gap appearing up the thigh between the front/apron of the kilt & the rear/pleated section (if I'm seeing it right) on the dancing figure in blue to the right.
[SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
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24th July 09, 02:29 PM
#14
 Originally Posted by peacekeeper83
I see people still dancing like that.....lol
A very excellent painting to get plenty of historical information on wearing of the kilts.... I am sure there is a law somewhere preventing the likes of me squeezing my large uhhhh yeah, into skin tight trews like these. 
Its nice tae see the sporran worn that high. Being a possesseur of an ample belly, a high riding sporran helps tae prevent the dreaded "Front butt".
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25th July 09, 09:24 AM
#15
 Originally Posted by McMurdo
The tartan worn in this picture was done so illegally, for highland dress had been proscribed after the Jacobite rising of 1745 in an Act not repealed until 1782.
So the wearing of the kilt shown on the other dancer and on the elderly gentlemen seated to the far left would also have been illegal?
 Originally Posted by BoldHighlander
I couldn't help but note the gap appearing up the thigh between the front/apron of the kilt & the rear/pleated section (if I'm seeing it right) on the dancing figure in blue to the right.
I guess this shows the value of having those two buckles on the right hip!
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25th July 09, 12:05 PM
#16
 Originally Posted by McMurdo
David Allan
Highland Wedding at Blair Atholl1780
The tartan worn in this picture was done so illegally, for highland dress had been proscribed after the Jacobite rising of 1745 in an Act not repealed until 1782.
http://www.nationalgalleries.org/col...Allan&submit=1
It has been suggested that the gentleman taking a pinch of snuff is none other than Atholl, himself. Although technically illegal, by the time this was painted there was little interest in enforcing the Act of Proscription.
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28th July 09, 06:25 PM
#17
 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
It has been suggested that the gentleman taking a pinch of snuff is none other than Atholl, himself. Although technically illegal, by the time this was painted there was little interest in enforcing the Act of Proscription.
As evidenced by the presence of a soldier seated with a lady in the right of the painting.
(At least I assume he's a soldier with the red coat and all)
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28th July 09, 07:10 PM
#18
Weren't the soldiers of the highland regiments the only ones who could legally wear kilts under the law?
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28th July 09, 09:08 PM
#19
 Originally Posted by Wompet
Weren't the soldiers of the highland regiments the only ones who could legally wear kilts under the law?
Technically, yes. But in reality by the time 1780 rolled around the British government was more concerned with what was going on in North America, while at the same time keeping an eye on France and that other outpost of Empire, India. Enforcing the proscription would have been (and was) counter-productive. Tartan, the pipes, kilts, and weapons of all sorts quietly returned to their rightful place in society beginning (at the latest) in the 1760s.
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29th July 09, 07:15 AM
#20
 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
Tartan, [b/]the pipes[/b], kilts, and weapons of all sorts quietly returned to their rightful place in society beginning (at the latest) in the 1760s.
Pipes were never banned by the Act.
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