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                                                20th July 09, 04:42 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Jamie,
 Here's another common cuff closure of the period: two typical flat buttons joined by a simple figure-of-eight linkage:
 
 
   Brian 
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                                                20th July 09, 06:06 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Great thread Brian!  
 I still have saved to disc a number of photos from your old units website that showed different clothing styles & angles of view
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 [SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                20th July 09, 06:12 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Really appreciate these pics, thanks.  Great stuff.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                20th July 09, 07:51 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Excellent post! I am glad you posted these pics.. I look foreward to seeing more historical examples of kilt wear.
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                                                20th July 09, 08:56 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Awesome pics Brian, thank you! Another aspect of the shirt is that it is quite long and can be worn pretty comfrotably as a night shirt!
 You realize you are single handedly wiping out years of marketing effort don't you!
   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                21st July 09, 05:28 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	We aim to please!  And you're right, the correct length of body shirts of that period is to just above the knees, and they functioned as underwear, night-shirts, etc.  There were also over-sized "work shirts" known as smocks worn by laborers, waggoners, farmers, etc. - worn OVER all other clothing to protect from dirt and stains....
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Dall_Piobaire   Awesome pics Brian, thank you! Another aspect of the shirt is that it is quite long and can be worn pretty comfrotably as a night shirt! 
You realize you are single handedly wiping out years of marketing effort don't you!  Brian 
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                                                21st July 09, 07:44 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					When I was doing Rev war reenacting, we had a woman here, somewhere near Snowcamp, who hand stitched some of the most amazing clothing. It was wonderful, accurate, and it didn't cost an arm and a leg. I put my stuff through hell, that was over twentyfive years ago, and I still have it! Wish I hadn't donated my shoes though.
 I hear Gedney Godwin is still in business though, so maybe....
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                21st July 09, 08:47 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Brian, it appears in the later costume that you are wearing a modern style kilt as opposed to the great kilt in the earlier style. Is that in fact the case. Is it likely that the Scots of the '45 were wearing a sewn kilt?
 And thanks for the photos.
 Jim KillmanWriter, Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
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                                                21st July 09, 09:57 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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				Brian 
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                                                21st July 09, 10:41 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					...to continue:
 According to J. Telfer Dunbar, the earliest definitive image of the "little kilt" is in a portrait of Alasdair Ruadh MacDonnell of Glengarry, dated to the early 1740's.  In the painting, Glengarry himself is wearing a belted plaid, but his henchman to the rear has on a philabeg:
 
 
  
 It's a bit hard to see, but those who have seen the original describe that kilt as being pleated in its entire circumference, common to the period.  Now, that all-round neat pleating would be rather hard to achieve by throwing 4 yards of fabric out on the ground, hand-pleating it, and belting it on - the way modern reenactors don their "great kilts."  A drawstring or pleats stitched into place seems more likely.
 
 But, I'm just speculating (gasp!)....
 Brian 
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