Eagle feather thread

[JSFMACLJR]

As only armigers are "entitled" to wear eagle feathers, I am always bemused by the great depths various forums will go in discussing them! How many Scottish armigers are there in the US?

I may or I may not have an eagle feather, which I may or may not wear on occasion, but as an armiger I am perfectly content to be identified by my crest within a plain circlet.

[hospitaller]

As only armigers are "entitled" to wear eagle feathers,

In Scotland, not in the US, anyone can walk with feathers in their caps. No one is entitled or 'authorized to wear them or not in this side of the pond.

I get your meaning though, but the clarification has to be made.

I may or I may not have an eagle feather, which I may or may not wear on occasion, but as an armiger I am perfectly content to be identified by my crest within a plain circlet.

We know

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[macwilkin]

[FONT="Georgia"]In Scotland, not in the US, anyone can walk with feathers in their caps. No one is entitled or 'authorized to wear them or not in this side of the pond.

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. A number of US citizens are also armigers and are authorized by heraldic organizations such as the Lyon Court, College of Arms, etc. to bear arms and wear feathers as armigers. They are bona fide and have the credentials to prove it.

And I must point out that being an armiger and being an American citizen are not contradictory -- and if you don't believe me, then perhaps the words of George Washington on the subject would be appropriate:

it is far from my design to intimate an opinion that heraldry, coat-armour, &c., might not be rendered conducive to public and private uses with us; or that they can have any tendency unfriendly to the purest spirit of republicanism.

-- Letter to William Barton, September 1788

More information about Washington's arms may be found here:

http://americanheraldry.org/pages/in...ent.Washington

Regards,

Todd

[hospitaller]

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. A number of US citizens are also armigers and are authorized by heraldic organizations such as the Lyon Court, College of Arms, etc. to bear arms and wear feathers as armigers. They are bona fide and have the credentials to prove it.

Todd,

it appears we are again at odds on semantics. I am not questioning the entitlement in Scotland for armigers to wear feathers, including eagle feathers. I was questioning the 'entitlement' of armigers to wear eagle feathers in the US. Hence my recognition of Sandford's intent and meaning, but adding the clarification.

And I must point out that being an armiger and being an American citizen are not contradictory -- and if you don't believe me, then perhaps the words of George Washington on the subject would be appropriate:

Agreed, I have been working on my own submission to the LL for over a year now.

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