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25th August 09, 03:02 PM
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Could we say that the Irish are using the Scottish kilt to represent themselves??
Gillmore of Clan Morrison
"Long Live the Long Shirts!"- Ryan Ross
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26th August 09, 11:33 AM
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Celtic Roots?
 Originally Posted by Nick the DSM
Could we say that the Irish are using the Scottish kilt to represent themselves??
If you consider that the original "Scots" came from Ulster (a mere twelve miles across the Irish Sea to Kintyre), it's not such a stretch is it?
footnote: see Kingdom of Dalriada, also Argyll, ie Coast of the Gaels (disclaimer for spelling, sorry).
Last edited by Deil the Yin; 26th August 09 at 11:35 AM.
Reason: added footnote
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26th August 09, 12:50 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by Deil the Yin
If you consider that the original "Scots" came from Ulster (a mere twelve miles across the Irish Sea to Kintyre), it's not such a stretch is it?
footnote: see Kingdom of Dalriada, also Argyll, ie Coast of the Gaels (disclaimer for spelling, sorry).
that's not what I meant.
What I mean is for example is these Irish Tartans and solid colored kilts, IMO, is like their own representation of themselves with a Scottish way of doing it.
Does anyone understand? I just can't get around to explaining any clearer.
Gillmore of Clan Morrison
"Long Live the Long Shirts!"- Ryan Ross
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26th August 09, 03:11 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by Nick the DSM
that's not what I meant.
What I mean is for example is these Irish Tartans and solid colored kilts, IMO, is like their own representation of themselves with a Scottish way of doing it.
Does anyone understand? I just can't get around to explaining any clearer.
10-4 I hear ya big dog, who cares how and why the kilt came about, it is a bond which binds us all now as Kilted brothers, "We many, we kilted band of brothers"
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26th August 09, 03:42 PM
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 Originally Posted by Nick the DSM
that's not what I meant.
What I mean is for example is these Irish Tartans and solid colored kilts, IMO, is like their own representation of themselves with a Scottish way of doing it.
Does anyone understand? I just can't get around to explaining any clearer.
Irish County tartans are a recent Scot weavers product... Now the solid color kilts have probably been around as long as the tartan kilts... The Irish have just used two colors... Saffron, which is a well known color in the Irish clothing history, and green, which has a been the the color that represents Ireland as a whole.. But again.... Solid colors are not an Irish only ideal... just read Matt Newsomes blogs on it...
One thing bothers me about this thread.... It seems to be... Anyone can wear a kilt... In any tartan they want... But not the Irish, and heaven forbid they wear a solid color kilt. I like probably most Irish blood members on this forum, can trace family lines through Scotland too.. Its only the Irish is only one generation away. I am proud of all of my ancestors, because it who I am today.
“Don’t judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant.”
– Robert Louis Stevenson
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26th August 09, 03:56 PM
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 Originally Posted by peacekeeper83
Irish County tartans are a recent Scot weavers product... Now the solid color kilts have probably been around as long as the tartan kilts... The Irish have just used two colors... Saffron, which is a well known color in the Irish clothing history, and green, which has a been the the color that represents Ireland as a whole.. But again.... Solid colors are not an Irish only ideal... just read Matt Newsomes blogs on it...
One thing bothers me about this thread.... It seems to be... Anyone can wear a kilt... In any tartan they want... But not the Irish, and heaven forbid they wear a solid color kilt. I like probably most Irish blood members on this forum, can trace family lines through Scotland too.. Its only the Irish is only one generation away. I am proud of all of my ancestors, because it who I am today.
Dude, I know that. What I'm saying is that they can wear kilts and its not a problem. Sure county tartans are scottish products and solid colors are not just Irish, I know but I think its a way representing Irishness with a kilt, just like the Welsh cilt.
Gillmore of Clan Morrison
"Long Live the Long Shirts!"- Ryan Ross
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