Glengarry's of old?

[79thReproductions]

Here's an original 79th New York glengarry I examined last winter. There's no date to it, but my friends and I believe if could be one of their 2nd issue glengarries in 1864. It was made in Scotland and imported for the Highlanders return to New York City......English markings and everything.

Its a bit taller the modern ones. There also is a SLIGHT curve on the bottom edge.







Don't mind the reproduction.... Its an early model

[HarborSpringsPiper]

Very cool! Thanks for sharing.

[Paul]

Here are 3 glengarry's belonging to a member of the Lorne Scots regiment.
First is from the 40s, 2nd is from the 50s and the 3rd is from the 60s.



There doesnt seem to be too much difference between them other than some slight shaping issues. The first 2 are military issues and the 3rd was made in Scotland and was his personal headwear.

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I just posted a thread of colorized WW1 Soldier images. There are some great glengarry in the bunch!

[OC Richard]

Nice reproduction of the 79thNY glen there!!! I'm sick and tired of seeing 79thNY reenactors wearing modern civilian glens with three-row red/white/black dicing.

Here I am a while back (boy I'm fat...I've lost 40lbs since then...)

[79thReproductions]

Thank you I have done most of my work with the boys in East Tennessee. That original is in Dewey Beards collection. I lived with him for almost two weeks doing research! Wonderful person.

We have talked years ago. Not sure if you remember.

I have more pictures if you are interested.....pictures of original...anything really.

Here you are Richard. This one was made before examining an original in person.





Quilted Silk/Polished cotton lining like most of the remaining originals.




Im sure you know this, but your dicing is backwards.

RED BLUE WHITE RED BLUE WHITE RED BLUE WHITE
WHITERED BLUE WHITE RED BLUE WHITE RED BLUE

[OC Richard]

Seems like the dicing can go one way or the other, depending on which photo and which original glen is used as the source. Mine follows an original glen I have photos of, if I remember rightly. I need to dig out the photos to make sure, though.

Your reproduction looks fantastic! The right shape, the right dicing, everything.

Mine is a funky homemade thing: I embroidered a strip of dicing and just stuck it on a modern glen.

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All the 79th glengarries I have seen have the same dicing. The Debose, Gettysburg, William Beard. If you have pictures of the 4th or 5th glengarry that exists, Id love to see it!

There are 5 known to exists...but I have heard rumors of a 6th... a 7th. Lord knows if I find one at a garage sale......... heh.

I started making glengarries with embroidered dicing on bodies that I made. I thought about altering modern black ones, but I came to the conclusion that making them out of wool, interfacing, and a lining cost less then a complete modern one to alter and in the end, it is more period in its shape and details.

I have always enjoyed your impression and work. I remember finding the site years ago and being blown away. Besides some close friends...no one knows the things that you were putting out on the web at that time.

Do you still have your impression? I remember seeing it on ebay I think. I hope no one bid and you were forced to keep that beautiful uniform!

[Kilted Rogue]

[QUOTE=OC Richard;810380]Nice reproduction of the 79thNY glen there!!! I'm sick and tired of seeing 79thNY reenactors wearing modern civilian glens with

three-row red/white/black dicing.

Here I am a while back (boy I'm fat...I've lost 40lbs since then...)

I should have know.
I find someone doing 79th on the web, exchange a few emails with him, then Bobs your uncle he show up on X Marks in his 79th kit, Talking to none other than the my primary source for 79th info

79thReproductions All the 79th glengarries I have seen have the same dicing. The Debose, Gettysburg, William Beard. If you have pictures of the 4th or 5th glengarry that exists, Id love to see it!

There are 5 known to exists...but I have heard rumors of a 6th... a 7th. Lord knows if I find one at a garage sale......... heh.

I started making glengarries with embroidered dicing on bodies that I made. I thought about altering modern black ones, but I came to the conclusion that making them out of wool, interfacing, and a lining cost less then a complete modern one to alter and in the end, it is more period in its shape and details.

I have always enjoyed your impression and work. I remember finding the site years ago and being blown away. Besides some close friends...no one knows the things that you were putting out on the web at that time.

Do you still have your impression? I remember seeing it on ebay I think. I hope no one bid and you were forced to keep that beautiful uniform!

[OC Richard]

OK, I see what I did: I followed the dicing pattern on the photos of members of the 79th I've seen (the guy wearing a shell jacket holding a sword, James Berry, and the group photo). All seem to show the dark blue squares in the upper row appearing over the white squares in the lower row.

I've seen the Gettysburg glen and it has the red squares in the upper row over the white squares in the lower row.

I suppose a quirk of Civil War photography could make the red appear darker than the blue??

In any sort of historical thing I always follow period photos rather than purported artifacts of murky provenance. So for the 79th prewar Full Dress uniform I take the period photos as my Gospel, unlike so many others who have chosen to follow the Albany uniform which has a completely different jacket, sporran, and glen. (Both L&M and some Pakistani or Indian company make 79th sporrans based on the postwar Albany sporran. Why they don't follow the prewar sporran as shown in the photos and on display at Gettyburg I can't imagine.)

About my 79th uniform, when I got into a financial crunch I sold it!!! D'oh! I never got everything just right anyhow... my plan was to order custom diced hose with plain white turnovers but I never go around to it. And my glen wasn't right as you can see. I did really like the sporran, jacket, and shoes though.