Thanks Heming. What are your thoughts on a logo/crest? With or without? If with which one of the above or do you have another to offer?

And to all, I'm trying to get together a decent image to put up of the recent suggestions for a final vote. After the general design is accepted, we can send it off to the vendor and they will put their finishing touches to it (this is the point were the 50% deposit will be needed) and return the submittal for approval before production proceeds. I don't know how much time I will have over the holidays to spend working on it but keep the discussion going.