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    Thanks for the ideas about tartan trousers- these "trews" have been worn by the Scottish Lowland regiments for many years so are very apropos.

    I think I'm going to hit some thrift shops in the morning!

    Now people may be wondering why they're hiring an uilleann piper. They have a Highland piper as well, but they heard me play the uilleann pipes at our local "Pipes of Spring" concert and they wanted that sound for their event.

    Actually, most Scottish folk songs don't fit on the range of the Highland pipes. I'll be playing a number of Burns songs that are perfectly playable on the uilleann pipes but not on the Highland:
    The Lea-Rig
    My Love Is Like A Red Red Rose
    Ca' the Yowes
    Afton Water
    Ye Banks and Braes
    Loch Lomond

    and of course
    Auld Lang Syne.

    (Yes Highland pipers including myself play some of these but the melodies have to be mangled somewhat to fit onto the limited gamut of the Highland pipes.)

    A very interesting recent book, Bagpipes: A National Collection of a National Instrument by Hugh Cheape demostrates that the so-called uilleann pipes probably had its origins in London, Edinburgh, and Aberdeen as well as Dublin:

    "On the basis of material evidence alone, it is possible to argue for a Scottish origin for the Union Pipe, or at least shared and coterminous develpoment of the intrument between the urban centres of Edinburgh and Dublin and possibly Newcastle."

    "By the early 19th century most of the surviving sets of Union Pipes are marked and the picture becomes clearer: with Hugh Robertson and Donald MacDonald in Edinburgh, Malcom MacGregor in Glasgow and London, Robert Scott in London and James Reid in North Shields."

    For some unknown reason the Union Pipes fell out of favour in Britain but flourished in Ireland. With the instrument's past conveniently forgotten and a spurious Gaelic name concocted, the uilleann pipes by the mid 19th century had become the Irish national instrument in popular culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    Thanks for the ideas about tartan trousers- these "trews" have been worn by the Scottish Lowland regiments for many years so are very apropos.

    I think I'm going to hit some thrift shops in the morning!

    Now people may be wondering why they're hiring an uilleann piper. They have a Highland piper as well, but they heard me play the uilleann pipes at our local "Pipes of Spring" concert and they wanted that sound for their event.

    Actually, most Scottish folk songs don't fit on the range of the Highland pipes. I'll be playing a number of Burns songs that are perfectly playable on the uilleann pipes but not on the Highland:
    The Lea-Rig
    My Love Is Like A Red Red Rose
    Ca' the Yowes
    Afton Water
    Ye Banks and Braes
    Loch Lomond

    and of course
    Auld Lang Syne.

    (Yes Highland pipers including myself play some of these but the melodies have to be mangled somewhat to fit onto the limited gamut of the Highland pipes.)

    A very interesting recent book, Bagpipes: A National Collection of a National Instrument by Hugh Cheape demostrates that the so-called uilleann pipes probably had its origins in London, Edinburgh, and Aberdeen as well as Dublin:

    "On the basis of material evidence alone, it is possible to argue for a Scottish origin for the Union Pipe, or at least shared and coterminous develpoment of the intrument between the urban centres of Edinburgh and Dublin and possibly Newcastle."

    "By the early 19th century most of the surviving sets of Union Pipes are marked and the picture becomes clearer: with Hugh Robertson and Donald MacDonald in Edinburgh, Malcom MacGregor in Glasgow and London, Robert Scott in London and James Reid in North Shields."

    For some unknown reason the Union Pipes fell out of favour in Britain but flourished in Ireland. With the instrument's past conveniently forgotten and a spurious Gaelic name concocted, the uilleann pipes by the mid 19th century had become the Irish national instrument in popular culture.
    Too bad I wasn't introduced to this board earlier, you are close to me. I live in Lomita and we had a piper at our wedding Mass in Redondo (we had a Protestant service at my wife's church as well but had restrictions on live music) and a uilleann piper at our reception. Of course at the reception we ended with a rousing Amhrán na bhFiann which, while certainly not for a Burns night, was a great end. Alas, I was not kilted because my wife had bought me a suit for our wedding as Christmas present and I had to put her feelings first as it was a fair investment.

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    Well the gig was last night. In the end, since I knew most of the men would be wearing all their Highland finery, I ended up wearing the kit seen in my avatar with hair sporran, buckled shoes, tartan hose, plaid and brooch, everything. I really need a different jacket though! The Argyll jacket is just a bit to informal for a kit like that.

    One man wore a glorious Montrose doublet with lace jabot, tartan waistcoat, antique brooch, etc... the nicest outfit of the evening.

    It didn't dawn on me at the time, but thinking back to last night, I didn't see any casual kilts/utilikilts/etc.

    I had the only tartan hose...
    Last edited by OC Richard; 24th January 10 at 06:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidlpope View Post
    . . . If I played the Uilleann pipes I don't think I'd wear a kilt when doing so. I think the less we conflate Scottish and Irish culture in people's minds, the better. They are both rich enough in tradition to stand on their own.

    Cordially,

    David
    I'm with David, for the reasons he gives. But I'm happy to learn that Uilleann pipes are not distinctively Irish.

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