What my Mom says about belt loops on kilts

**Jock Scot** · 14th February 10, 06:26 AM

It is bad form to disagree with anyone's mother, but all I can say is that until I joined this website, I did not know that some kilts even had "belt" loops.

**Redshank** · 14th February 10, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

It is bad form to disagree with anyone's mother, but all I can say is that until I joined this website, I did not know that some kilts even had "belt" loops.

it's all very confusing for us simple scotsfolk, I guess we live and learn

**JSFMACLJR** · 14th February 10, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by Redshank

it's all very confusing for us simple scotsfolk, I guess we live and learn

Made my day with that statement!

**Jock Scot** · 14th February 10, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by Redshank

it's all very confusing for us simple scotsfolk, I guess we live and learn

Sometimes I get so confused that I begin to think that the kilt was invented in the USA!

**mbhandy** · 14th February 10, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Sometimes I get so confused that I begin to think that the kilt was invented in the USA!

Only at Xmarks.

MrBill

**Jock Scot** · 14th February 10, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by mbhandy

Only at Xmarks.

MrBill

If you say so!

**cavscout** · 14th February 10, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Sometimes I get so confused that I begin to think that the kilt was invented in the USA!

No, just Reborn

**OC Richard** · 15th February 10, 04:55 AM

I listened for several hours at a solo piping competition yesterday, and boy did it jump out to my eye how, on several pipers who had their waistbelts shoved through the belt loops on their kilts, the back of their kilts resembled the Golden Gate Bridge's cables (like the McDonald's arches inverted).

Shortly afterwards I was talking to a Scottish guy who owns a kilt shop, and I noticed that he himself had his waistbelt shoved through his loops.

I myself order kilts with two buckles and no loops! It's the way kilts should be in my opinion.

Hmmm.... why don't they make those loops really small so that you can only put your sporran strap through them...

**M. A. C. Newsome** · 15th February 10, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

Hmmm.... why don't they make those loops really small so that you can only put your sporran strap through them...

That's the way the loops were originally made -- I've had to alter a few older kilts that had these very small belt loops for the sporran strap.

I've been told (this is all anecdotal, mind you) that the reason kiltmakers started to make their belt loops wide enough to accomodate the kilt belt was because they were requested to by their clients who couldn't understand why their wide belts couldn't fit through the tiny loops!

As for the "kilts invented in the USA" comment -- well, all I can say to that is that it is mostly Scottish kiltmakers putting belt loops on kilts, so I'm not sure what the USA has to do with it.

I'm in the US, and I don't put belt loops on my kilts. Of the three other US professional kiltmakers that I have had direct, personal experience with, none of them made their kilts with belt loops unless specifically instructed to by their clients.

**slohairt** · 15th February 10, 08:04 AM

I never recommend belt loops and only advocate (smaller) sporran loops if the wearer's hips and waist are identical in size.

Matt is correct on his observation as well. Every Scottish-made civilian kilt I've ever altered has had large belt (not sporran) loops.