"Rules" for wearing family tartan

[BoldHighlander]

There is a point where myth becomes tradition, not only tradition but respected tradition. Whole religions are based upon such myths.

I have nothing against 'traditions', in fact I'm all for them, but I also do not wish to foist off kilt myths about 'rights' or 'entitlements' when no such rights actually exist, lest I be looked upon as some sort of elitist snob (which I am not).

[BoldHighlander]

However clearly and logically the cooler heads on this forum explain this, there will still be the drunk wearing pants at the Highland Games who will be challenging you to a throw-down because you're wearing his family tartan that has been his family's tartan for thousands of years........

Indeed!

[Arlen]

O.K. Folk. This thread has gone far from the O.P's question and gone on to religious discussion.
I'm going to go ahead and close the thread while the mods decide what to do about it all.

[BEEDEE]

The two posts discussing religion have been moved to the Sick Ward while we determine what action to take. Please be aware of Rule #5
- Discussions espousing one particular religious belief or political system over another or comparison of one belief or system to another will not be allowed.

The tread has been reopened.

Brian

[BoldHighlander]

So you subscribe to the "I'll take your made-up clan tartan designs, but not the made-up rules about wearing them" philosophy? It must be very liberating to be able to pick and choose (and disregard) what parts of tradition that you respect.

Hardly. In the case of my Macdonell of Keppoch tartan (#511), it pre-dates the '45 & was given by the Keppoch chief to the Young Pretender. Even the "Modern" (aka Green) Mackay tartan, a sample of which was signed and sealed by the Chief (Lord Reay) for the Highland Society of London in 1816, is almost identical to a description of the tartan worn by the Mackay Regt in the 30 Years War. Either way both pre-date the 'Sobieski' twins or any 'made-up clan tartan designs'.

As for disregarding 'tradition' on the elitist attitude of a 'right' to wear a clan tartan only if you have the name, that is a 'right' the Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs says does not exist. Why is that so hard to understand? And why do I feel like I'm beating my head against a brick wall?!

I feel like any more discussion on this subject is pointless. It is evident from this thread that you are entrenched in your elitist mindset & will not concede the point, therefore I feel like anything else said on my part is just throwing more fuel on an endless fire.

[butch]

I am always amazed at these threads. they never seem to end well. but the one observation I have is how Someone always thinks there are some rules that need to be followed or dire consequences will befall one who is not "entitled " to wear a certain tartan. But there never seems to be a concern to women and the designers of their fashions. If they like it or want to adapt it for women, they could care less what culture it's from, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks. "If it's in fashion, I'll wear it" I would think some would be quit appreciative that some of us are willing to move kilt wearing from the 18th century to the 21st I would be sure the way I have adapted kilt wearing to my personality would leave some aghast, but I have had great reactions from people who now leave in the states who were originally from Scotland, None have ever questioned if I was allowed to wear that tartan. They were simply glad to meet someone in a kilt. "KILT ON"

[xman]

I would think some would be quit appreciative that some of us are willing to move kilt wearing from the 18th century to the 21st ... None have ever questioned if I was allowed to wear that tartan. They were simply glad to meet someone in a kilt. "KILT ON"

This should be the priority as I see it. The more and varied acceptable ways a kilt can be worn (tastefully always) the better it is for kilting. Know the 'rules' and break them tactfully.

[Monkey@Arms]

So you think many on this forum are anarchistic obnoxious debased degenerates (or at least our kilts are).

I must admit, The Scotsman, you do have a way with words.

Best regards,

Jake

[Downunder Kilt]

An open question to The Scotsman. At what point in the past does your scottish tradtion commence. Is it the time when there were no clan tartans, or when the great kilt was first worn or does your traditional view start in the Victorian era. I ask this as you seem to be saying that if peole don't agree with your idea of the "traditional scottish attire then the are wrong in their own idea of tradition. I would be willing to wager a gold sovereign that you have at least once in the past, worn something, when wearing a kilt, that is not traditional highland attire.

Let he who is without guilt cast the first stone

[Micric]

Seems we are progressing quite rapidly here, Scotsman now has many of us as degenerative
debased obnoxious whimsy tartan anarchists.

Don't hold back old chap! ...Tell us what you Really think! :-)