This is, I believe, is the third thread in regards to designing a tartan for a New York State tartan. Although I'd really like to see for everyone to come together on one design, it seems like it keeps going in circles. I had a tough decision for my new Ontario kilt whether I'd go with the more recognized Ensign of Ontario (based on the colours of our provincial flag) or the newer Official Ontario tartan. I chose the official tartan because of it's meaning, specifically the blue representing the lakes (particularly the Great Lakes) due to my service with the Coast Guard Auxiliary on western Lake Ontario. May I suggest each of you New Yorkers look inside and say what represents to you, New York. Whether it be Lakes Erie & Ontario, the Hudson River or that engineering marvel the Erie Canal. Perhaps its Watkins Glen, the Finger Lakes or the Adirondacks. Perhaps it's the cities like Albany or Buffalo or the numerous towns with the names of your First Nations that I cannot pronounce. One of you said that you don't see New York as a red state. true if you're talking political affiliation, but if we're talking forest consider how our Maple Leaf tartan, aptly named personifies the changing colour of a maple leaf. New York is as famed as Vermont and Ontario for it's fall colours. Perhaps a hunting tartan in a red-gold that closely follows a blue-green state tartan. NYC has a wonderful tartan, NY State needs one too.

Just my two cents, which since we're not at par, isn't really worth as much.