Balanced treatment of Ulster history

**BoldHighlander** · 9th July 10, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by LostMcElmurry85

I am a McElmurry myself and I was wondering if you could share with me what information on the McElmurry's you have, because I have been stuck on locating the origin of the McElmurry's before 1750. I don't know the plaid color or anything else before 1750. So if you could please send me some information I would appreciate it. Thanks!

I for one have nothing to offer....however you might have better luck posting such a query in the genealogical section. Posted here it'll probably just get lost in the middle of the thread.

Best of luck on your search....oh, and

**The Thing** · 10th July 10, 01:30 AM

Hows things,

Just thought I'd recommend two books dealing with the modern history of Northern Ireland. The first one "Lost Lives" deals with every victim of the troubles in Northern Ireland and their own personal stories, it is a fantastic read but very, very sad and the second book is "Bandit country" again a fantastically researched and written book.

I'd highly recommend both books as they are easily the two best books I've read on Northern Ireland's modern history.

Cheers, The Thing.

**McElmurry** · 10th July 10, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by LostMcElmurry85

I am a McElmurry myself and I was wondering if you could share with me what information on the McElmurry's you have, because I have been stuck on locating the origin of the McElmurry's before 1750. I don't know the plaid color or anything else before 1750. So if you could please send me some information I would appreciate it. Thanks!

Howdy and welcome. I am going to respond on an existing thread titled "Any Gilmores out there????"

**Norman McCollum** · 5th August 10, 08:27 AM

I am an Ulster Scott, born in Lurgan, County Armagh, N.Ireland, and one of my ancestors Henry McCollum left Belfast on The Prince of Wales ship in 1767 bound forCharlston SC. His son Newman McCollum settled in Winfield, Fayette County, Alabama and became the largest slav owner in Alabama. I have visited the McCollum descendents in Al, and even met a black McCollum, a descendent of one of Newman's slaves.

**Lallans** · 5th August 10, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by The Thing

Hows things,

Just thought I'd recommend two books dealing with the modern history of Northern Ireland. The first one "Lost Lives" deals with every victim of the troubles in Northern Ireland and their own personal stories, it is a fantastic read but very, very sad and the second book is "Bandit country" again a fantastically researched and written book.

I'd highly recommend both books as they are easily the two best books I've read on Northern Ireland's modern history.

Cheers, The Thing.

Thing, that first book must be one HELL of a big one. I'll look for both, thanks.

**James Byous** · 22nd August 10, 08:37 PM

If you haven't read the book, Born Fighting, by Jim Webb you need to take a look. It follows the Scots-Irish migration from Roman times to present. It's a very good read.

**Norman McCollum** · 23rd August 10, 01:41 AM

Thank you James. I will try and get a clopy.

Regards
Norman

**McClef** · 23rd August 10, 06:01 AM

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**macwilkin** · 23rd August 10, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by James Byous

If you haven't read the book, Born Fighting, by Jim Webb you need to take a look. It follows the Scots-Irish migration from Roman times to present. It's a very good read.

Then follow it with James Leyburn's The Scotch-Irish: a social history, for a more scholarly (but readable) account. I know a lot of folks love Webb, but as a historian, I prefer Leyburn.

T.

**Lallans** · 15th September 10, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by The Thing

Hows things,

Just thought I'd recommend two books dealing with the modern history of Northern Ireland. The first one "Lost Lives" deals with every victim of the troubles in Northern Ireland and their own personal stories, it is a fantastic read but very, very sad and the second book is "Bandit country" again a fantastically researched and written book.

I'd highly recommend both books as they are easily the two best books I've read on Northern Ireland's modern history.

Cheers, The Thing.

Originally Posted by Canuck of NI

Thing, that first book must be one HELL of a big one. I'll look for both, thanks.

Well I did get a copy of "Lost Lives," via Abebooks, latest updated edition. Absolutely gutwrenching to read, particularly about some of the larger incidents- I don't know if I'll ever get through all +1200 pages. It does not make me proud. And that's for sure. Such wonderful people, on both sides. What in hell went wrong with us?