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4th October 10, 05:29 AM
#21
Denbcdough,
I think you will find the cap-bashing more or less in the Traditional kilt wearing section, even Jock keeps it light in other sections!
Having said that, a flat cap with a kilt still looks cross-bred to some, and me, and make no apologies for that!.....even tho' I wear said flat cap a lot with saxon clothes.
Arlen,
I wear the balmoral all year for work, and do as you suggest, switch it around for sun/wind rain, whatever. I don't pull it into different shapes though, I just screw it around on my head.
Re hot weather, The old wool bonnet seems to breathe, and be no hotter than a bush-hat, though if it's in the 30's(C) the bush-hat comes into it's own,...more brim!
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4th October 10, 06:26 AM
#22
Micric, it’s not only the balmoral that is versatile.
In the regiment, our army tammies would be pushed out to the front as a sunshade on occasion (although never on parade), and we would often sit or lie relaxing in the sun that way.
I have also seen it pushed out to the back, to allow close work of certain kinds.
Maybe it is because of this versatility that I see little point in a flat cap.
Regards,
Mike
Last edited by Mike_Oettle; 4th October 10 at 06:35 AM.
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4th October 10, 06:03 PM
#23
I tend to wear the dreaded flat cap while kilted and sometimes while wearing Saxon clothes. I have a Glengarry that I wear for formal fuctions with my PC (I'm constantly asked if I'm in a pipe band when I do), a tan military style tam and a Balmoral bonnet that I have not yet had occasion to wear. I'm thinking about getting Balomorals in other colors just for variety. When I'm performing at Renaissance fairs, I wear a hand-knitted burgundy wool tam with my clan badge on it.
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4th October 10, 07:39 PM
#24
What is wrong with the flat cap? Please don't all jump on me at once lol. Is it a style thing, cultural or period thing? Forgive me if it is mentioned on the forum elsewhere, but I haven't found it.
Last edited by vespa; 4th October 10 at 07:47 PM.
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4th October 10, 07:48 PM
#25
Well My Balmoral from GlengarryHats.com came in today. I have to say its better then I had expected. from reading posts about them I expected the tops to be much smaller. I can pull it well down on the right side and have the band level all the way around. I'll post pics once I get a chance.
I may have to order a second depending on how well it turns out after I "jock" it. Hmmm. Just had a funny thought while not capitalizing the J in Jock. is a noun still a noun when its being used as a verb? Should it be "I'm Jocking my hat" or I'm jocking my hat"
Either way this is one more kiltie who's head is properly covered.
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4th October 10, 07:54 PM
#26
You might find this unusual but, on the occasions I wear a hat (I don't count the protection for when I am on 2 wheels) I usually wear a boonie. Always offers enough shade.
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4th October 10, 09:28 PM
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Mike O,
Couldn't agree more about versatility of the tam! Might even have an edge over a normal balmoral, in that it might have a bit more 'top' to mess with.
I often wear mine as an eye shade, as since I detatched a retina and had it glued back, my left eye doesn't like the sun.
Cheers,
R.
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5th October 10, 09:33 PM
#28
 Originally Posted by vespa
What is wrong with the flat cap? Please don't all jump on me at once lol. Is it a style thing, cultural or period thing? Forgive me if it is mentioned on the forum elsewhere, but I haven't found it.
Most issues with the flat cap is more from a traditional stand point. The flat cap is distinctly English so in that regards its along the same lines as wearing a bowler hat or fedora with the kilt. doesn't really fit. At first I didn't really know the flat cap was English.
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6th October 10, 12:51 AM
#29
 Originally Posted by Tiny
Most issues with the flat cap is more from a traditional stand point. The flat cap is distinctly English so in that regards its along the same lines as wearing a bowler hat or fedora with the kilt. doesn't really fit. At first I didn't really know the flat cap was English.
Good lord! Are they English? Frankly I don't know if the flat cap originates from England, I have never really thought about it, but somehow I doubt if the truth of its origin will really ever be known. However many thousands of acres of Scottish tweed must have been used to make them over the years.
My objection to flat caps with the kilt is purely an aesthetic one, nothing more. I do concede that it is hardly a hanging offence to wear one with the kilt if one so chooses, nevertheless it is worth pointing out to those that don't know that they are not traditional kilt attire. I know that the flat cap was indeed worn with the kilt for a brief period of time during the latter part of the Victorian era and into Edwardian times, but that does not make flat caps with the kilt look any better or traditional.
They do allow for a certain amount of ammunition for some good natured banter on this website from time to time though!
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6th October 10, 03:14 AM
#30
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Good lord! Are they English? Frankly I don't know if the flat cap originates from England, I have never really thought about it, but somehow I doubt if the truth of its origin will really ever be known. However many thousands of acres of Scottish tweed must have been used to make them over the years.
My objection to flat caps with the kilt is purely an aesthetic one, nothing more. I do concede that it is hardly a hanging offence to wear one with the kilt if one so chooses, nevertheless it is worth pointing out to those that don't know that they are not traditional kilt attire. I know that the flat cap was indeed worn with the kilt for a brief period of time during the latter part of the Victorian era and into Edwardian times, but that does not make flat caps with the kilt look any better or traditional.
They do allow for a certain amount of ammunition for some good natured banter on this website from time to time though! 
As is the norm I stand corrected. Though a search on wiki shows they originate from the United Kingdom and parts of Italy. The flat cap was introduced to the US by English and Irish immigrants. This may be where I got the notion that the flat cap was English.
Not that you can completly trust wiki. Hey heres and idea lets all go write something in Wiki saying the flat cap was traditionally worn with a kilt.
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