Airport & kilt

[O'Callaghan]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

On behalf of myself and the Forum Moderators I feel I need to say something.

This is now the fourth thread on the subject of flying in a kilt. The three previous threads on the topic have been hijacked and derailed by a few members who persist in making comments about the policies, procedures and agencies in airports today.
These comments have added nothing to the original topic nor do they add to a better understanding of the topic. They seem to have been made to either interject controversy or to vent personal frustration with the policies or agencies.

The Forum Moderators do not like closing threads. It is the last resort when a thread has gone so far off topic that there is no chance of it remaining productive.

Earlier in this thread a suggestion was made to create a separate forum section on flying in a kilt with hints and tips. We would like to consider this suggestion but it is a fact that we seem to have a few members who refuse to keep their political and personal comments out of threads and who seem to delight in acting like Trolls. It is the comments of these members that caused the previous threads to be closed. We are concerned that the same would happen again.

We are all equal members here. We all have the responsibility to police our forum. The Report a Post feature of the forum is how this is done. The Forum Moderators will only act on a thread if it is reported. They can also only make a determination on a violation of our published rules. It is a violation or it is not.
Our Forum Moderators do not close a thread out of bias, personal belief or simply because the thread has gone off topic.

You all have a responsibility to insure this forum is what you want it to be. Do you want the forum to go in the direction the last three threads went? Then all you have to do is be silent and those who post will have the predominant voice.

Commenting without noting that our civil rights are being shredded is like ignoring an elephant in the room. So clearly I have nothing else to say.

[dutchy kilted]

I will be flying overseas (our of Newark) in the Spring. I saw Chapmanredbourn say he had flown in a UK Mocker and Survival.

I was planning on wearing my UK Mocker for comfort, but don't feel like being singled out for all sorts of special attention for doing it. Has anyone who has flown kilted found that they got more pat-downs, etc when they were kilted as opposed to non-kilted.

And how do you get through the metal detector, especially with a Survival?

Thanks for any guidance!

[MacMillans son]

I will be flying overseas (our of Newark) in the Spring. I saw Chapmanredbourn say he had flown in a UK Mocker and Survival.

I was planning on wearing my UK Mocker for comfort, but don't feel like being singled out for all sorts of special attention for doing it. Has anyone who has flown kilted found that they got more pat-downs, etc when they were kilted as opposed to non-kilted.

And how do you get through the metal detector, especially with a Survival?

Thanks for any guidance!

If there is a lot of metal on the "kilt" there is no way to get through without setting off the machine. Others have posted about turning sideways as you go through the metal detector as a way to reduce the amount of metal the machine detects at any one point, but I can easily see a TSA person telling you to go through the machine normally. After all, who would go through the machine sideways unless they had something to hide??? You can try all of the explaining you want about the buckles, but I am confidant it will not change their commitment to making sure you are not trying to get over on them.

If I was committed to flying kilted, for what ever reason, next time I think I would bring a pair of baggy sweat pants to the airport with me in a plastic bag. Step into the men's room, pull the sweats on under my kilt, undo the kilt, walk through security and place the kilt in the bin with my other personals. After the security check, pop back into the men's room, put the kilt on over the sweats and step out of them, put them in the bag and they are now carry on luggage the size of a small loaf of bread.

Or, if it is a one way flight, and one without multiple security check points, you could do as my marathon running friends do, buy the sweats at the nearest thrift store for a dollar or two and leave them in the trash after you go through security.

Good times!

[NewGuise]

I wore a kilt through airport security a couple of weeks ago, set off the alarm (of course), and when the nervous young officer told me he would have to pat me down, I simply grinned, took The Stance - legs comfortably apart, arms raised - and said "go for it." The whole security area was smiling when I turned around.

[troxel87]

I will be flying overseas (our of Newark) in the Spring. I saw Chapmanredbourn say he had flown in a UK Mocker and Survival.

I was planning on wearing my UK Mocker for comfort, but don't feel like being singled out for all sorts of special attention for doing it. Has anyone who has flown kilted found that they got more pat-downs, etc when they were kilted as opposed to non-kilted.

And how do you get through the metal detector, especially with a Survival?

Thanks for any guidance!

The last time I flew, I was wearing my new UK Survival. It was brilliant. I had no more attention given me, it was as if I were wearing p@^7$. As for not setting off the metal detector? Didn't have a single problem. As far as I have been told, it takes a certain amount and/or type of metal to set the machines off. I also think that's part of the brilliance of the UK Survival, is the detachable pockets. I detached them, tossed them in the luggage scanner and walked through the metal detector. I flew from Seattle to Salt Lake City, then from there to Baltimore. Never had a single issue (other than the fact that the cabin was FREEZING on the Salt Lake-Baltimore leg of the trip)!

Hope that helps. It was just my personal experience.

[wildrover]

Commenting without noting that our civil rights are being shredded is like ignoring an elephant in the room. So clearly I have nothing else to say.

Ironic, innit?