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                                                16th February 11, 08:52 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	VERY nice sir!!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Ancienne Alliance   A dream come true ! 
Honour to my Lindsay Branch !
   
Best,
 
Robert 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                16th February 11, 11:48 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	No offense taken but when you look at the tartan history books the whole notion of wearing ones "Clan Tartan" its all a fairly resent invention from the late 18th century.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by BobsYourUncle   If I may, even though I have actually worn a fly plaid to formal evening events, I felt it a bit naaf and was self conscious about it, and I don't do it regularly. Our Scots members can speak for themselves, but the impression I get from comments in other threads on this forum is that to a Scot's eye and sensibility, the fly plaid is not really a correct item of Scottish dress, is a bit of a kilt rental shop invention, is a bit overly affected, and is best not done.
 
 Having offended many, I am sure, I will apologize in advance...but I feel that a bit of a warning is in order here...Cheers, BYU
 I wear a fly plaid when I'm piping for a black tie occasion. It's got an old school look to it that I like when it's done right. I took this picture in front of a mirror so keep in mind that it's backwards.
 
  
 Here is Archie MacNeil, The famous blind piper, wearing a fly plaid.
 
  
 Here is John MacDonald of Inverness (A god to serious pipers) wearing a fly plaid.
 
 
  
 Here is Robert Nicol, one of the Famous Bobs of Balmoral. (Royal Pipers) wearing one.
 
 
  
 and in this picture is G.S. McLennan, a genius of a composer, and my hero. I think he's wearing one as well but I could be wrong.
 
 
  
 As I said, no offense taken at all but I think that when it's worn right ie: good quality tartan not hire shop light weight fabric it can look good.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                16th February 11, 11:55 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Here is the great piper Malcolm MacPherson otherwise known as  Calum Piobair wearing a day plaid.
 
   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                16th February 11, 11:58 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Could not some or all of these old photos show a belted plaid, rather than a fly plaid?  One photo in particular definitely shows the belted plaid:
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Andrew M. Stewart   No offense taken but when you look at the tartan history books the whole notion of wearing ones "Clan Tartan" its all a fairly resent invention from the late 18th century. 
I wear a fly plaid when I'm piping for a black tie occasion. It's got an old school look to it that I like when it's done right. I took this picture in front of a mirror so keep in mind that it's backwards. 
   
Here is Archie MacNeil, The famous blind piper, wearing a fly plaid.
   
Here is John MacDonald of Inverness (A god to serious pipers) wearing a fly plaid.
   
Here is Robert Nicol, one of the Famous Bobs of Balmoral. (Royal Pipers) wearing one.
   
 and in this picture is G.S. McLennan, a genius of a composer, and my hero. I think he's wearing one as well but I could be wrong.
   
As I said, no offense taken at all but I think that when it's worn right ie: good quality tartan not hire shop light weight fabric it can look good. 
 
   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                16th February 11, 12:07 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					  Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR   Could not some or all of these old photos show a belted plaid, rather than a fly plaid?  One photo in particular definitely shows the belted plaid:  I don't think anyone was wearing a full plaid at that period of time.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                16th February 11, 12:08 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Good ole Calum - he has a wonderfully made cairn in Badenoch near Cluny castle - where he was personal piper to Cluny during the mid to late nineteenth-century. His pipes are at the Clan Macpherson Museum and House in Newtonmore.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Andrew M. Stewart   Here is the great piper Malcolm MacPherson otherwise known as  Calum Piobair wearing a day plaid.    
				
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                                                16th February 11, 12:15 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Really! i didn't know that. It's too bad that they aren't being played by someone, pipes die when they are left to dry out. Any idea who the pipe maker was?
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by creagdhubh    His pipes are at the Clan Macpherson Museum and House in Newtonmore.  
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th February 11, 12:35 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	It isn't a full plaid; rather, it is a belted plaid.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Andrew M. Stewart   I don't think anyone was wearing a full plaid at that period of time. 
 Nonetheless, I believe full plaids were quite common.  Why would you say that they weren't being worn then?
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th February 11, 05:31 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					After the invention of the philbeg and the proscription on highland dress dropped the belted plaid wasntvworn much. Most of these guys here were army pipers. These pictures were for the most part taken at the beginning of the 20th century. The only people wearing the philimor in the 20 century were most likly re- enactors, running around various highland games with their faces painted blue quoting Mel Gibson at the top of their lungs.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                17th February 11, 05:46 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	I don't think you are correct, Mr. Stewart.  The full plaid ( is that what the philimor is? ) was quite common well into the last century, for both day wear, Court dress, and evening wear.  The well-known photograph of my late father at the Argyllshire Gathering certainly shows the plaid being worn.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Andrew M. Stewart   After the invention of the philbeg and the proscription on highland dress dropped the belted plaid wasntvworn much. Most of these guys here were army pipers. These pictures were for the most part taken at the beginning of the 20th century. The only people wearing the philimor in the 20 century were most likly re- enactors, running around various highland games with their faces painted blue quoting Mel Gibson at the top of their lungs. 
   
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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