Quote Originally Posted by SlackerDrummer View Post
But why on Earth would you want a registration from a country with which you have no connection whatsoever? If it is simply so that you can have the seal of approval from a government entity, then I would suggest your self-worth deserves some introspection.
Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
That's like saying because someone wants champagne from France rather than sparking wine from up-state New York their self worth deserves some introspection. Some people just prefer "the genuine article"; to decry this seems to be rather mean spirited
I think you missed my point, but I can see where my comment could be seen as mean-spirited. I should clarify my position on this matter to some extent. I think people who live in countries with heraldic authorities should use them, whether they be granting authorities, official registries, or what have you. I don't think there is anything wrong with granted arms. There are plenty of good and valid reasons to seek a grant of arms from a foreign country, but among them is not that granted arms are real as opposed to assumed arms.

And here again, Scott, your example above is clearly misleading. In your analogy, you suggest that heraldry is sparkling wine and that granted arms are the equivalent of Champagne and that assumed arms are sparkling wines and even though they may be good sparkling wines in their own right, they are not Champagne and are therefor not, as you put it, "the genuine article." The problem with this argument is that heraldry is not sparkling wine, but simply wine. In your characterization that heraldry is sparkling wine, you have dismissed all the fine German wines and others from around the world that are the top of their classes, but which in no way purport to be Champagne.