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21st April 11, 06:12 AM
#21
Also, to be period accurate, you don't have to wear a clan tartan.
I'd take it a step further even than that. To be period accurate, don't wear a clan tartan. The modern clan tartans did not exist when great kilts were worn.
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21st April 11, 07:12 AM
#22
Yeah, you are doing to die wearing 8 yards of fabric. I have a 4 yard long great kilt and it is a LOT of fabric to arrainge around you.
I'm using woodsheal's pic as a basis for my ren fair outfit as it is relatively cheap once you get the kilt and a lot of it can be hand made with only modest talent, plus at ren fairs in the south the less I can wear, the better 
I do agree that I will look fairly shabby compared to other kilted fair-goers, much less the decked out hard core ones, but walk with some confidence and I have little doubt I will represent well. Just have to get that bonnet looking right....
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21st April 11, 02:34 PM
#23
For ren type of affairs, I prefer to dress in modern kilt and kit, just as I would if going anywhere else. My own reasoning is that I like to wear the kilt, but history is also very important to me (history teachere here), and I don't have a full set of late 16th, 17th, or 18th century clothing. So rather that wearing a mish-mash of clothing from different periods and contributing to the idea that the kilt is a costume or something that William Wallace would have worn, I go the route of wearing my normal, modern clothes.
All that said, I also agree that for some folks, the dress up however you want and just have fun approach is the only way to go. As has been mentioned over and over, this is not the place for true living historians to strut their stuff.
 Originally Posted by jason10mm
Yeah, you are doing to die wearing 8 yards of fabric. I have a 4 yard long great kilt and it is a LOT of fabric to arrainge around you.
I'm using woodsheal's pic as a basis for my ren fair outfit as it is relatively cheap once you get the kilt and a lot of it can be hand made with only modest talent, plus at ren fairs in the south the less I can wear, the better
I do agree that I will look fairly shabby compared to other kilted fair-goers, much less the decked out hard core ones, but walk with some confidence and I have little doubt I will represent well. Just have to get that bonnet looking right....
Sounds like a sound plan!
...but if you want the bonnet to look right, it has to be hand knit and felted.
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21st April 11, 02:49 PM
#24
 Originally Posted by Ryan Ross
Sounds like a sound plan!
...but if you want the bonnet to look right, it has to be hand knit and felted. 
This one is excellent!
http://jas-townsend.com/product_info...roducts_id=250
It's hand knit, felted, breathes well in the heat, keeps my noggin warm in the cold, and if you soak it in water and put it on, it acts like a swamp cooler! Oh, and it makes for a great Indiana McJones look:

I just about killed the guy who interrupted my nap...
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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21st April 11, 02:55 PM
#25
 Originally Posted by jason10mm
Yeah, you are doing to die wearing 8 yards of fabric. I have a 4 yard long great kilt and it is a LOT of fabric to arrainge around you.
I'm using woodsheal's pic as a basis for my ren fair outfit as it is relatively cheap once you get the kilt and a lot of it can be hand made with only modest talent, plus at ren fairs in the south the less I can wear, the better
I do agree that I will look fairly shabby compared to other kilted fair-goers, much less the decked out hard core ones, but walk with some confidence and I have little doubt I will represent well. Just have to get that bonnet looking right....
The more "decked out" ones would be more along the lines of clan gentlemen and lairds. You will look more like the majority of the Highland population. Or you could even simpler! A tradesman's look:

Like Thirsty Viking, Cliff doesn't feel particularly comfortable wearing his kilt around the forge... That's actually the style I'm going to start wearing this year. It would really suck to spill leather dye on a kilt...
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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21st April 11, 03:56 PM
#26
This is my Faire Garb, because like my esteemed colleague, Nighthawk pointed out, I dont wear my kilt in the forge (mostly due to their synthetic nature, and the desire to keep the wool ones nice). Plus... I get to honor my Norse ancestry a bit!
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21st April 11, 05:54 PM
#27
 Originally Posted by The Thirsty Viking
This is my Faire Garb, because like my esteemed colleague, Nighthawk pointed out, I dont wear my kilt in the forge (mostly due to their synthetic nature, and the desire to keep the wool ones nice). Plus... I get to honor my Norse ancestry a bit!

I love the tunic, man! That looks sharp!
And Viking- we had talked about this before, and because I can't remember where and feel like highjacking the thread, here's a picture of my sons drinking horn!
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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22nd April 11, 08:02 AM
#28
 Originally Posted by Nighthawk
This one is excellent!
http://jas-townsend.com/product_info...roducts_id=250
It's hand knit, felted, breathes well in the heat, keeps my noggin warm in the cold, and if you soak it in water and put it on, it acts like a swamp cooler! Oh, and it makes for a great Indiana McJones look:
I just about killed the guy who interrupted my nap... 
I hate to disagree with you, good sir, but those bonnets, fine as they are, are cut and sewn, not knit and felted, and are not really authentic to the 18th century.
I prefer these:
http://giftshop.scottishtartans.org/knit_bonnets.htm 
 Originally Posted by Nighthawk
I love the tunic, man! That looks sharp!
But on this point, I couldn't agree more! Really awesome tunic, Zac.
Last edited by Ryan Ross; 22nd April 11 at 08:14 AM.
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22nd April 11, 08:28 AM
#29
 Originally Posted by Ryan Ross
I hate to disagree with you, good sir, but those bonnets, fine as they are, are cut and sewn, not knit and felted, and are not really authentic to the 18th century.
I prefer these:
http://giftshop.scottishtartans.org/knit_bonnets.htm
But on this point, I couldn't agree more! Really awesome tunic, Zac. 
They sure have a hand knitted feel to them! The weave is really loose. Maybe the cloth is hand woven... Mine is deffinately felted, though. I can tell by the feel... I felted a pair of Locharron hose once, and these bonnets have the same feel. So I'm wrong on the knitted part- not the first time I've been mistaken. Thanks for pointing that out. (I still like the way they look, though, and the price- so I'll stick with them. Nah nah! Especially given the fact that the ones at STM are over $100 after shipping! They preserve the illusion of being accurate, which is the thing I like best about them. They look good. They are, to be fair, fur trapper era bonnets.)
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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22nd April 11, 08:39 AM
#30
 Originally Posted by Nighthawk
They sure have a hand knitted feel to them! The weave is really loose. Maybe the cloth is hand woven... Mine is deffinately felted, though. I can tell by the feel... I felted a pair of Locharron hose once, and these bonnets have the same feel. So I'm wrong on the knitted part- not the first time I've been mistaken. Thanks for pointing that out. (I still like the way they look, though, and the price- so I'll stick with them. Nah nah!  Especially given the fact that the ones at STM are over $100 after shipping! They preserve the illusion of being accurate, which is the thing I like best about them. They look good. They are, to be fair, fur trapper era bonnets.)
Agreed and agreed, brother. I should imagine that the fabric is machine woven and then felted- a fine way to produce a quality fabric. And the bonnets are good looking.
As for the price of the STM bonnets, in all fairness, it takes about 10 hours to make one, and at a lower price, the orders were coming in much much faster than I could physically knit them.
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