Confederate Memorial

[Lallans]

1: Swastika trivia. It is indeed an ancient Indian symbol of goodness and was adopted via Buddhism all over Asia. To this day, Buddha images arriving in Canada from the Chinese mainland typically have a swastika on them, to the dismay of almost everyone who sees one for the first time.

Stars and Bars: even with Google, I'm not able to tell what the difference is between that and the Confederate Battle Flag: please enlighten. But I was rather started to see the crossed starry bars image used on the silks of a jockey in the recent annual running of the Queen's Plate thoroughbred race here. The name of the horse was I believe Starry Night, which fit the image, but it was amazing that the PC police didn't make an hysterical arrest before the race even started. The horse lost and was not seen again so it may of course have happened afterwards.

[cavscout]

This is the "Stars and Bars" (number of stars could be 7, 12 or 13)



This is the Battle Flag



and this is the current GA flag

[Lallans]

This is the "Stars and Bars" (number of stars could be 7, 12 or 13)



This is the Battle Flag



and this is the current GA flag

Most complete and enlightening, thank you. If a year-old memory is correct, the Stars and Bars looks very much, but not precisely, like one of the commemorative Confederate flags sold at the Gettysburg Battlefield museum- now I understand the origin of that one better.

[jForrester]

Excellent, cavscout. Thanks. I might add that the Stars and Bars was the initial national flag. (Equivalent of the Stars and Stripes of the U.S.) The battle flag (aka Southern Cross) was just that; a strictly military flag with no political or sovereignity significance.

[macwilkin]

Excellent, cavscout. Thanks. I might add that the Stars and Bars was the initial national flag. (Equivalent of the Stars and Stripes of the U.S.) The battle flag (aka Southern Cross) was just that; a strictly military flag with no political or sovereignity significance.

And to add to this: some scholars believe that the First National's designer, Nicola Marschall, may have based the "Stars & Bars" on the flag of Austria. William P. Miles, a Confederate Congressman and Chair of the "Committee of Flag & Seal", rejected the First National, due to its resemblance to not only "Old Glory", but also to the flags of Liberia and the Kingdom of Hawaii. Miles made some fairly perjorative remarks about how the Confederacy's flag should not be similar to that of a nation of freed slaves and the other of savages, yet his own design was rejected by the Committee as looking like a "pair of suspenders" -- Miles is generally credited as the designer of the "Confederate flag", although there are many variations found in the various commands of the rebel army.

T.

[mouse 1]

I am going to gettysburg later this month. My american heritage and or blackwatch will be comfortable there "light weight"

[finlay marquisl]

Sorry if I'm slightly off topic. I found this place when I was researching info about making my husband's kilt. By the way thanks for the help. Everyone was very generous.
Anyway I'm searching info on tartans so I'm back and found a few of the civil war reenactors. Thought I would run a few question by them If they don't mind.
I wanted to use the Confederate memorial tartan in 100% wool or cotton. But was informed it would still be farb because the tartan was a new design. So any opinions on using the Macdonald?

http://www.thescottishweaver.com/Sil...cdonaldlrg.jpg
http://www.scottish-wedding-dreams.c...Wales-2610.gif

Thanks for your patience and any directions and opinions on this.

[Hothir Ethelnor]

Any sort of kilt would be "farb" as part of a uniform. And the wearing of the kilt by civilians in that time is rarely if ever mentioned.

The Macdonald clan tartan predates the ACW so it would be within the realm of possibility.

Cameron of Erracht is the only tartan worn by a USA military unit.

There are lots of other options of tartans that would have been around back then.

[macwilkin]

Any sort of kilt would be "farb" as part of a uniform. And the wearing of the kilt by civilians in that time is rarely if ever mentioned.

The Macdonald clan tartan predates the ACW so it would be within the realm of possibility.

Cameron of Erracht is the only tartan worn by a USA military unit.

There are lots of other options of tartans that would have been around back then.

Just a point of clarification, but the statement that the Cameron of Erracht tartan being the "only" tartan worn by a US Armed Foces unit is incorrect.

Besides the pipe bands at the US Military & Naval Academies, the US Air Force and the Air Force Reserves have maintained a pipe band, as well as the Sixth Army, the 7th Cavalry Regiment, the 191/91st Infantry Division (CANG) and several others listed on the US Coast Guard Pipe Band web site (although it is made up of current & former members of the USCG & USGC Auxillary).

T.

[fluter]

Cameron of Erracht is the only tartan worn by a USA military unit.

My brain's inference mechanism read "... in the ACW (TRU)" into that statement.