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30th May 11, 03:59 PM
#91
I'm not a "Glee" watcher and have no idea what it is, so I suppose I am out of context, but responding to some comments above.
To me the kilt has always seemed extremely macho manly, so to see a gay man wearing it only means that a gay man is wearing a kilt. He has to wear SOMEthing to keep from being naked. If he wears the kilt for some reason, it's no different to me than p@nts.
What really and truly puzzles me is the concept that somehow the kilt would be associated with one's sexual orientation. To me those are utterly disconnected concepts.
Guess I'm just unusual.
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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30th May 11, 04:18 PM
#92
 Originally Posted by Father Bill
I'm not a "Glee" watcher and have no idea what it is, so I suppose I am out of context, but responding to some comments above.
To me the kilt has always seemed extremely macho manly, so to see a gay man wearing it only means that a gay man is wearing a kilt. He has to wear SOMEthing to keep from being naked. If he wears the kilt for some reason, it's no different to me than p@nts.
What really and truly puzzles me is the concept that somehow the kilt would be associated with one's sexual orientation. To me those are utterly disconnected concepts.
Guess I'm just unusual.
I don't know, it seemed like some of the posts were conveying a worry that people will think all kilt wearers are like the character on Glee. I suppose that could happen, I suppose it could also be worrying a little too much.
As to new or unconventional fashion and kilt wearing, The Wizard of BC has posted several times on this, such as wearing a fedora and leather jacket with the kilt, and using the regular clothing one has and normally wears with the kilt. It really isn't traditional, and the waters are pretty muddy on that subject, so I'm not sure what to think anymore.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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30th May 11, 04:30 PM
#93
 Originally Posted by Bugbear
I don't know, it seemed like some of the posts were conveying a worry that people will think all kilt wearers are like the character on Glee.
Is that character a bad person?
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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30th May 11, 04:43 PM
#94
 Originally Posted by Father Bill
Is that character a bad person?
* shrug *
That's why I asked if it would have been better if the bully on the show had been the one to wear a kilt a few posts back.
* Edit:
For future reference, my current signature is "I believe in sandwiches." and that is what Father Bill is referring to in his following posts.
Last edited by Bugbear; 31st May 11 at 08:50 PM.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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30th May 11, 04:51 PM
#95
 Originally Posted by Bugbear
* shrug *
That's why I asked if it would have been better if the bully on the show had been the one to wear a kilt a few posts back.
Interesting.
I believe in sandwiches too.
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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30th May 11, 04:52 PM
#96
 Originally Posted by Father Bill
Interesting.
I believe in sandwiches too.
In fact, I believe I shall make one.
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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30th May 11, 04:55 PM
#97
 Originally Posted by Father Bill
Is that character a bad person?
He's a great character who is drawn pretty close to a real person, in that he's a really good guy overall but has his bad days and flaws. He's just recognized for being written fairly groundbreaking as openly gay, with storylines sometimes revolving around that.
By that way, it seems my worries were ungrounded, probably because most of the kids and teens who watch Glee are already on Kurt's side and rooting for him. What the girls wore to the prom was probably much more memorable to most of them, and the storyline of why voting a gay male as prom queen can be hurtful will probably stick out more in their minds than what Kurt wore this episode.
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30th May 11, 04:58 PM
#98
 Originally Posted by TurboKittie
He's a great character who is drawn pretty close to a real person, in that he's a really good guy overall but has his bad days and flaws. He's just recognized for being written fairly groundbreaking as openly gay, with storylines sometimes revolving around that.
By that way, it seems my worries were ungrounded, probably because most of the kids and teens who watch Glee are already on Kurt's side and rooting for him. What the girls wore to the prom was probably much more memorable to most of them, and the storyline of why voting a gay male as prom queen can be hurtful will probably stick out more in their minds than what Kurt wore this episode.
Glad there was no cause to worry. I still don't really understand the fuss much.
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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31st May 11, 05:17 AM
#99
 Originally Posted by LeeAnne
I think we need to separate the issue of what people think of gay men from what the writers thought is an appropriate storyline. So what was the writers' take on this? Here's my view: I think the writers chose the character to wear a kilt because he's gay. I don't think they chose the character to wear a kilt because he's manly...
THAT'S what I have the problem with.
Agreed
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31st May 11, 06:56 AM
#100
 Originally Posted by LeeAnne
I think we need to separate the issue of what people think of gay men from what the writers thought is an appropriate storyline. So what was the writers' take on this? Here's my view: I think the writers chose the character to wear a kilt because he's gay. I don't think they chose the character to wear a kilt because he's manly...
THAT'S what I have the problem with.
 Originally Posted by biblemonkey
Agreed
I don't think it's either of those options. I think the writers chose Kurt to wear a kilt, because he is the most adventurous dresser. What would the put him in... a tux?!
Cheers,
Michael
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