The Importance of knowing the Rules of Kilted Fashion

[Rex_Tremende]

I saw that, but it's OK, Ted. I've never noticed you ever getting defensive. Just inquisitive.

Kind regards,
Rex.

[Bugbear]

I saw that, but it's OK, Ted. I've never noticed you ever getting defensive. Just inquisitive.

Kind regards,
Rex.

Thanks Rex. I had to spend some time sitting in the pouting corner thinking about what I had done, and where it all went wrong.

I will still stick to the MacMillan of Rathdown advice on formal attire for the most part, but I will be quiet about it.

[Alan H]

Uh...guys.

Think for a minute. Read the title of this thread. We're arguing and getting all heated up about "fashion".

FASHION

I mean, if this thread was about climate change, or Somali piracy, or toxic waste being dumped, or extinction of species, or the worlds economic woes, or terrorism, then OK.....get all heated up.

But FASHION?

*ahem*

[Panache]

...Think for a minute. Read the title of this thread. We're arguing and getting all heated up about "fashion".

Alan,

I know you don't like the word "Fashion" and it tends to set your teeth on edge.

The point of this thread is a discussion of not what constitutes fashion, but that on a kilt forum that deals with highland dress how we treat those that offer the conventions, guidelines, precedents, standards, teachings or even "rules" that are associated with this manner of dress.

My point before and know is that if one is going to do something different than what is expected, it is far better to do this by choice than not knowing these conventions, guidelines, precedents, standards, teachings or even "rules"

You don't have to be bound by them, but it is useful to know what they are.

I wanted to note that I am grateful to those who share their valuable knowledge of the conventions, guidelines, precedents, standards, teachings or even "rules" of kilted attire.

Follow it or don't follow it, I acknowledge that I am being given good information and respect it.

How I use that information is up to me.

Cheers

Jamie

[greenman11]

At the risk of bringing this thread back to the question of rules or guidelines I would offer my kilted (tilted) experience. My first kilt was purchased for my oldest daughters wedding, an afternoon to evening affair. I took a couple of months looking, delving into family history, finally deciding Tartan, package purchase, and supplier. The icon picture shows the results. In order to wear this large investment properly and with the dignity befitting it and my ancestors I consulted a number of publications. The book the aided me the most was 'So You're Going to Wear the Kilt' by J. Charles Thompson 3rd edition. Keep in mind that this was a formal affair and in itself had rules, guideline, etiquette...
Since then I have purchased two more kilts of the 'casual' type, a UTILIKILT for black powder shoots or roughing about, and a SPORTKILT for Irish fests and Highland games. As time goes on I will assuredly purchase more kilts with certain occasions in mind or tartan selections.

My point is that common sense should rule the day. I certainly would not wear my formal dress kilt to a black powder match and visa versa. For some subtitlies, as happens on this site, questions of protocol are posed. Not all quandries can be resolved through books, because after all sometimes different authors disagree. So we throw out a line hoping for reinforcement or clarification. Style is dependant upon the occasion, that is the more formal the affair the more formal the dress, the stricter the rules.

I thank all members who grab that line and pin a note to it.

My regards to all,

[ccga3359]

Okay who wrote the "rules"? And when? Was it when one was covered from head to toe in mis-matched tartans? A definate no-no today. Tastes change or are we supposed to all dress up in Jacobite shirts and swordsman jacket, I'm thinking that they predate PC's and Argyles, brush off sheep dust and you you're formal. 21st Century Kilts is a well respected kilt maker, they seem to buck the "rules", just seem to make things up. Have you seen the Hellraiser/Matrix full length kilt? Put that with a PC and bowtie.

[gilmore]

Okay who wrote the "rules"? And when? Was it when one was covered from head to toe in mis-matched tartans? A definate no-no today. ...

O no, I am so sorry to learn that...

[Raphael]

Have you seen the Hellraiser/Matrix full length kilt? Put that with a PC and bowtie.

I don't think a full length kilt will work well with a PC and a bowtie. However, I can see it being worn with a Montrose Jacket or a GT Doublet.

[Ancienne Alliance]

You don't have to be bound by them, but it is useful to know what they are.
Jamie

...useful and less embarrassing (if one has a little pride)

Knowledge is always a "plus". To have choice through knowing is one of the definitions of freedom.


Best,

Robert

[Scotus]

I think there is a point of departure between those who think of the kilt as Scottish national dress and those who think of it as simply a fashion statement or sign of rebellion and non-conformity. The latter are more likely to talk about the how the kilt is "comfortable," will go on and on about trouser oppression, and wear "kilt-like" garments I wouldn't personally consider to be "kilts." Somehow, we all manage to get along in this forum for the most part, for which I'm thankful.

In the former group, you will find those seek to know the "rules," so that they can wear Scottish attire properly; that is, to honor the tradition from which this attire comes. This group, as I am in this group, is more likely to be wearing the kilt for reasons of culture rather than rebellion from a culture or norm.

As far as the motto, "Rules are meant to broken," whoever came up with that silly phrase doesn't live in my world.