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30th December 04, 05:21 AM
#11
Thing is, for most people the only diet change needed is to back away from the buffet sooner. That was what I did along with working out with weights for 20 minutes a day and I dropped 35 pounds in about 5 months.Most folks eat too much at a sitting.
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30th December 04, 08:46 AM
#12
 Originally Posted by bubba
Thing is, for most people the only diet change needed is to back away from the buffet sooner. That was what I did along with working out with weights for 20 minutes a day and I dropped 35 pounds in about 5 months.Most folks eat too much at a sitting.
I agree that most people eat too much (at least one one sitting).
Years ago, I had a trainer and he gave me a diet. I think I ate more. I certainly ate more often (5 times a day). I did lose some weight, but a lot was offset by building up muscle. I found trying to work a job, eat 5 times a day and getting to the gym to be too much for me to do alone.
One day, my trainer saw a guy wearing pink shorts. He had a hard time time with that. He did eventually rethink his position. Still, I'm sure he would have fainted if I arrived at the gym in a kilt.
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30th December 04, 09:19 AM
#13
I don't go to a gym. For less money than a gym would cost I bought a bench, dumbells, a curl bar and ankle weights. I just follow a simple workout plan for 20 minutes every other day. I agree muscle mass offsets the fat loss to a degree, but muscle is healthy weight, lard isn't It really isn't so much the weight itself as what the weight is caused by.
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30th December 04, 09:27 AM
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Maybe you guys could do the "Carmen Electra Striptease Workout" at home if you don't want to go to they gym.
http://www.aerobicstriptease.com/sto...omer/index.php
I'm not sure if she has a section about aerobically taking off a kilt, but I'm guessing she has at least one Catholic schoolgirl uniform at her house.
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30th December 04, 09:31 AM
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Thanks Rufus, I hit the previews link, and let me tell you I am now..........inspired
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30th December 04, 04:38 PM
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I wish to reply to a few points.
first off hamish mentioned in a similar thread, that he kind of stuck to a low carb diet.
you have to stick to low carb diets all the way not just sort of.
also you get out of working out what you put in.
probably not his fault,rather his trainers fault.
as for personal trainers, most of them go on a weekend course,and don't know a thing about propper training. I see this one trainer , at my gym. got this older guy perched on the top of this ball, doing god knows what,trying to show off n be fancy,
"look what I know". the poor chap does not seem to be enjoying it.
and if you don't get anything out of your workouts, you trainer should not agree with you and tell you to give up, he should encourage you and alter your training.
as for eating less,depends on what you want to do, I want to build muscle, you can't starve a muscle in growing, you need to eat more, just more of the right stuff.protein for building muscle,you also need a few carbs to get yourself ready for your next workout.pro body builders cut way back on carbs for about 16 weeks prior to a competition.
as for the Carmen Electra Striptease Workout.
dunno bout work out, I'm worked up 
I never thought of roleplay in the gym.
"hey buddy, wanna play the panzer commander and the milkmaid"?
that should be good for a workout, or a beatin'
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30th December 04, 06:17 PM
#17
 Originally Posted by Jewddha
I sympathise, after about 4 months of doing some serious cardio (and midway strength/endurance training), I had done nothing but GAIN weight. However I can't afford a trainers advice, so I've just cut down on the muscle work, and I seem to have balanced out (though still more than before) (if anyone would care to give advice, thanks in advance). And back on topic, I have not tried... I tend to have a fair portion of my workout as rowing, and well, I'm sure you can imagine...
Muscle weighs a tremendous amount more than fat. I think ten times more, but I can't remember exactly. If you are training to get in shape, or change your body, I would advise you to ignore the scale and concentrate more on the mirror, and a tape measure. If you must use a scale to weigh yourself, only do so once a week, since your body weight can vary each day as much as 5 pounds. Also be consistent about the time you weigh yourself as your weight fluctuates through out the day. Most fitness experts recommend weighing yourself first thing in the morning right after your morning bathroom ritual.
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30th December 04, 06:35 PM
#18
I started working out simply to get rid of some lard. Mission pretty much accomplished. Toning up was mostly a side benefit.
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30th December 04, 06:48 PM
#19
 Originally Posted by Will
Years ago, I had a trainer and he gave me a diet. I think I ate more. I certainly ate more often (5 times a day). I did lose some weight, but a lot was offset by building up muscle. I found trying to work a job, eat 5 times a day and getting to the gym to be too much for me to do alone.
Just out of curiosity, did your trainer analyze your normal diet before giving you a new one? Most, I find don't, but they should. Many trainers tend to assume they know how much you eat based on your size, then actually give you a diet that works in reverse. A trainer who does not analyze your current diet has no business giving you a new one. Most personal trainers don't know enough about nutrition to be able to give a proper diet anyway.
Changing the amount of meals from 3 to 5 or more is actually a technique that is used to change your metabolism. Done correctly it can seem to work wonders. Done incorrectly it will be a disaster.
My advice to most people who are trying to lose fat is to write down everything you eat and drink for one week. This is to include what you eat, how much of it you eat, and when you eat it, as well as your liquid intake. Once you see what you are actually putting into your body, it often becomes easy to see where change needs to occur.
Many people find they are not drinking enough water. Increasing your water intake to 6 to 8 pints a day, often helps keep the dreaded munchies away, which if you are prone to snacking is often all you need to change to drop 3 pounds a week until your body stabilizes. I've actually just simplified some general concepts. It does get a whole lot more complicated trying to discuss things in general. It's much easier on a person to person basis.
If anyone is interested in getting a fitness thread going in "Off-Topic", I'll be happy to join in one since this thread seems to be veering that way.
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30th December 04, 07:10 PM
#20
 Originally Posted by Satirist
Just out of curiosity, did your trainer analyze your normal diet before giving you a new one? ...
Actually, he did. He was surprised how little I was eating.
I agree about the need to drink more water. Its always been a problem area for me.
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