In the company of men

**Andrew Breecher** · 30th January 05, 09:05 AM

Derek, I find that I wear my UtiliKilt for mucking around, like one might wear a pair of jeans for doing dirty work. I have no qualms about staining or wrinkling it. I can also wear my UK to work, since our only dress code requirement is to wear "khaki". Just a thought, if you don't want to change into jeans to clean the garden or anything.

Andrew.

**Riverkilt** · 30th January 05, 10:13 AM

Great story from the old country, thanks Derek.

People like kilts. Was at the hardware store in my little rural town yesteday in my black UK workman's.

A rolly polly young lady with a Jack Sprat tall lean boyfriend said "Nice Kilt, where'd you get it?" For some reason had tucked some cards in a pocket when I left home, usually don't carry them. Gave her a card which she immediately passed to her man...

I agree, getting used to wearing kilts, walking proud with a bit of swagger, swing, strut, whatever...makes all the difference.

Went from the hardware store to Safeway...was wearing a lesbian band black t shirt with the black kilt...ran into a young lesbian client who gave me a big smile...don't know if it was the kilt, or the shirt, or both...but she experienced a moment of joy.....which was really cool since she's being treated for depression.

Ron

**Tim Walker** · 30th January 05, 01:23 PM

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**Alan H** · 30th January 05, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome

Derek,

One of the things you will find as you wear your kilt more often is that people will seem to notice it less and less. Why is this?

I think those who wear the kilt only on occasion, especially when they are new to it, tend to wear the kilt more as a costume than as clothing. What I mean by this is that the kilt is an unusual thing for them, so they carry themselves differently, the hold themselves different, and through their body language and attitude tend to draw attention to themselves.

Those who wear the kilt frequently wear the kilt simply as clothing.
A man in pants is a man -- but a man in a kilt is a man and a half!
Enjoy!
Matt

This was an interesting insight. The notion of the difference between wearing the kilt as regular old everyday clothes and wearing it at "special" or even as "a costume" affecting all your body language is interesting. It makes sense.

I noticed that I stood a little bit straighter the day I wore my kilt to work. Same thing today, when I wore it to church. The kilt is still very new to me, but I figure it wearing it gets me to stand up a little straighter that's a good thing. I hope it doesn't wear off!

Alan

**Chris** · 2nd February 05, 08:04 AM

Derek,

Its great that you are striving to be 100% kilted.

I noted that you are planning to purahcse another kilt from the WTC. What tartan will you be getting for next one? I quite like the Powys and Pride of Wales tartans. I also like the Welsh National (not the St. David's but the Welsh National from the 1960's) which I have.

My only problem with the Welsh tartans is the weight. My Welsh National is an 18 oz. and it just hangs and feels so much better than the 16 oz. welsh tartan. I was wondering if the mill that makes Welsh Tartans in Wales can do a custom weave of a Welsh Tartan in heavier fabric. If so, I would highly recommend going with a heavier weight.

Cheers,
Chris

**Hamish** · 2nd February 05, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Derek

Ham .... I am seriously thinking about getting another kilt in the next few months. I'll get exactly the same as what I already have and I will get it from the welsh tartan centre .. it won't be cheap but it will be worth it. .................................................T ake care
Derek

Derek, pause awhile! It is the most wonderful news that you are contemplating the purchase of a second kilt. I appreciate the fact that your Morgan tartan is absolutely fabulous, but can you not be 'adventurous' and select something else for your second investment? You will not be disloyal to 'Morgan' if you do.

As you say, your existing kilt is in perfect condition, so it does not require replacing. Give yourself a treat, look carefully at the other Welsh tartans available to you and choose something else this time. Look also at the plain colour kilts.

Go on! Be a Devil.

Love to Elaine, and

**Rob Wright** · 2nd February 05, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Hamish

Originally Posted by Derek

Ham .... I am seriously thinking about getting another kilt in the next few months. I'll get exactly the same as what I already have and I will get it from the welsh tartan centre .. it won't be cheap but it will be worth it. .................................................T ake care
Derek

Derek, pause awhile! It is the most wonderful news that you are contemplating the purchase of a second kilt. I appreciate the fact that your Morgan tartan is absolutely fabulous, but can you not be 'adventurous' and select something else for your second investment? You will not be disloyal to 'Morgan' if you do.

As you say, your existing kilt is in perfect condition, so it does not require replacing. Give yourself a treat, look carefully at the other Welsh tartans available to you and choose something else this time. Look also at the plain colour kilts.

Go on! Be a Devil.

Love to Elaine, and

I'm with Ham on this, variety is the spice of life! 8)

Rob Wright

**Derek** · 3rd February 05, 12:18 AM

Chris .... Thanks for the info .. I am going to the welsh tartan centre today to ask about the mill producing a heavier family tartan cloth. Will post the outcome later. By the way Chris, did you ever find out more about the welsh whisky .. PENDERYN single malt welsh whisky.
www.welsh-whisky.co.uk
Ham .. thanks for your comments. I will give it serious thought about another tartan. There is also a plain Black welsh cilt, which the shop told me a while back was the colour of the original welsh cilt. I'll ask Elaine to see what she reckons would be a good one. She will enjoy doing that. While I am at the welsh tartan centre I intend to buy a new welsh cilt pin. Will post a piccy of it later.
Take care
Derek