Unaffiliated?

[highlander_Daz]

I wouldn't classify the "Royal Stuart" as a Jacobite tartan, though, since it is used by the current royal house

Bit of a mix up here guys!!!ethe current monarch is Elizabeth the first of scotland (Elizabeth he second of the UK ) of the House of windsor - the stuarts have not been on the Throne for over 200 years!!! Supportors of Charles Stuart were Jacobites (from the Latin "Jacobus" for James (Stuart) hence the Jacobite Royal Stuart Tartan , The current royal Family use The "Balmoral" Tartan - My Ancesters ( Camerons) Fought alongside Stuart at Culloden

[macwilkin]

Daz,

You are correct about the Balmoral tartan, but technically, the House of Windsor does have some Stuart blood in it -- Mary, the daughter of James II, and the wife of Prince William of Orange, was a Stuart -- their daughter Anne was the last Stuart to reign before the Hanoverians took over.

The current royal family uses quite a few tartans:

http://www.tartansauthority.com/Web/...yalTartans.asp

So, both "Jacobite" and "Government" supporters can claim the Royal Stuart tartan! :mrgreen:

Cheers,

Todd

[highlander_Daz]

queen Anne is infamous here for signing the act of Union!!
whilst tecnically your correct its seen here as Jacobite Tartan, the Stuarts still have many supporters, probably more than the house of Windsor !!!

Prince Charles is the Only member of the Royal family who wears the kilt on occasion, one of his titles is Prince of Scotland !

[macwilkin]

True, Daz...Phillip wears one on occasion, but Charles wins the prize for kilt-wearing.

Ironically, the band of the Black Watch wears Royal Stuart tartan -- a government regiment established to patrol the Highlands against the Jacobites wearing a tartan associated with them! :mrgreen:

I personally prefer the "Prince Charles Edward Stuart" tartan.

Cheers,

Todd

[highlander_Daz]

true I think your looking backwards a bit, its true the blackwatch musicians wear the Royal Stuart Tartan, unfortunatly the Government intends to amalgamate all the Scottish Regiments a disgraceful act of penny pinching!!, In Scotland since the reformation, its had the spectre of sectarianism hanging over the country, its a very emotive subject, that really cant be appreciated on history websites or message boards, Tartans can be a powerful symbol and its how they are perceived, rather than history gleaned from books or the Internet. on a lighter note its great that Charles flys the flag for wearing the Kilt!!!

[macwilkin]

Daz -- that's what I said -- the band, the musicians of the Black Watch :mrgreen:

Cheers,

Todd

[Galant]

Good thoughts so far, but is it possible to pool a list of unaffiliated tartans? Tartans that are simply designs and not affliliated with any clans, or perhaps even military unit?

[Geoduck]

I find it kind of complimentary when I see a Menzies tartan on someone who has no affiliation to the clan. I see it as someone who just digs the tartan. We saw quite a bit of the Menzies Mourning tartan in shops all over when we were in Scotland. I was told that it was because of the lack of simple black and white tartans. It sure made it easy to find things though, compared to my wife the MacQuarrie.

[Alan H]

Good thoughts so far, but is it possible to pool a list of unaffiliated tartans? Tartans that are simply designs and not affliliated with any clans, or perhaps even military unit?

Anything on the USA Kilts page that's not a clan name is just a plaid that you can wear. The same goes for Sport Kilts.

If you have the bucks to afford to get a wool kilt made with a custom woven wool, then there are oodles of tartans. I can't even begin to name them all. Look in any of the Tartan finders for the name of your State. California and Colorado for example, have state tartans. Good luck getting 4-8 yards of the California State tartan, though. The suppliers website is a disaster. Texas has a tartan, and there are others. There's a tartan specifically designed for the USA.

Go visit the Bearkilts site. For example, Bear will build you a kilt in a tartan woven by a local supplier he works with...it's the "Celtic Pride" tartan and it has no affiliation whatsoever. It's not registered...nothing. It's just a very nice looking green tartan.

I suppose you could just review Oregons Pendleton Mills various medium - to - heavy weight wool plaids and find one you liked. You can order the bulk fabric. Then build a kilt yourself or take it to a kiltmaker. Brace yourself, it ain't cheap.

If you're on a tight budget and you really don't want to wear a tartan associated with any organization, clan, state, district or whatever, then to to the USA Kilts website and pick something from their pages. Ditto for Sport Kilts.

If you just cannot stomach the idea of a plaid kilt because it might be mistaken for a clan....well, OK, if that's how you feel that's fine....you could look into a tweed kilt. Several of the Scottish makers offer them. They're solid color tweed wool. Very classy.

[bear]

Go visit the Bearkilts site. For example, Bear will build you a kilt in a tartan woven by a local supplier he works with...it's the "Celtic Pride" tartan and it has no affiliation whatsoever. It's not registered...nothing. It's just a very nice looking green tartan.

Sorry to correct you Alan, but Gordon Kirkbright of Fraser & Kirkbright Weavers informs me the tartan is registered and copyrighted as Celtic Pride and is made only by Fraser & Kirkbright.

I'm about to get 8 metres of 13oz and have my first hand stitched traditional kilt made.