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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan H
    ... But I'd spend $150 on a kilt!!!!
    Hear, hear Alan, and can somebody figure out how I can pay for it with their money! Need to look into translating somebody's on-line jeans order into a new SW or AK for me!

    RJI
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    You're right Alan, the article was about "premium" jeans...maybe better called "show off" jeans.

    The last time I bought Carhart it was a Caramel Workman's Utilikilt.
    Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
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    "I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."

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    Kilt - Great Value

    I agree a kilt is fantastic value but let remember that you simply cannot buy a decent kilt for less than $300 ($540). Such a kilt will last a lifetime and thus be excellent value. Buy anyting cheaper and it is either a 'pretend' kilt or a cheap imitation and it won't last and certainly won't hang right or look good. Utilikilts and sports kilts and such like have their place in that they get men into the concept of wearing a kind of kilt so that is a step in the right direction - bit like a kindergarden activity. There is simply no substitute however for a trasditional kilt of good quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverkilt
    TLooks like kilts are becoming a sound financial option that provides solid value over designer jeans and even dress pants.

    Ron
    Reverting to basics ie the point of the original poster - I endorse the view that a £270 kilt (traditional) being similar to the price of an average priced suit and almost three times the price of good quality jeans is in my humble view excellent value given that it remains in fashion, it will last a lifetime, it can be worn formal and informal and always keeps its shape. Its a trusty friend that outlives every suit and pair of jeans in the wardrobe. I think I should now bow out gracefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba
    Geez, we must have some pretty wealthy people in this discussion. I've never paid more than $20 for a pair of jeans in my life and it'll be a cold day in Hell when I pay over $700 for a waistcoat, leather or not. as for what constitutes a real kilt, our forefathers would laugh themselves sick over the pretentiousness of the whole debate then take away our whisky and tell us we can have it back when we grow up.
    Och, no the whisky!!

    Bubba, I have to be careful, when reading some of your posts, that I haven't just taken more than a sip of coffee. The snorting and coughing from my cubicle tends to alarm some of my co-workers.
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    There are plenty of opinions here, some held more strongly, and defended more vehemently, than others.

    As a nitpick, there are many types of "kilts" around the world -- past, present and (most likely) future. Even though "Scot" appears in the name of this website, I, for one, refuse to limit my discussions here only to traditional Scottish highland dress. So, if one feels that the word "kilt" is synonymous with Scotland in this cosmopolitan Internet-linked day and age, that's fine. Just be aware that others' world views and awareness levels may not be on a par with yours.

    Speaking of par, and focusing on that sport, for a moment, I'm certain that the old-timers' jaws would drop if confronted with sculpted greens, elevated tees, and intentionally created landscapes sustained by irrigation and petrochemical fertilizers and weed/pest control substances. They'd likely take their "featheries" and their "mashey" and wander off, shaking their heids and seeking out more than just a wee dram o' 't.

    Oscar Wilde said that, "Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we must alter it every six months." I respect the traditions of those from whom we are descended -- I may well be the first in my direct family line since the days of the American Revolution who has gone kilted, although I cannot speak for my many 3rd, 4th and more distant American cousins, of course. When these discussions seem to me to tend more towards what constitutes a "proper" and fashionable "form" of Highland wear, rather than the practical functionality for which our ancestors first spun and waulked and dyed and wove tartan fabric, then I see a bemused ghostly Mr. Wilde pondering what in blazes may have brought his Celtic cousins to such state.
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    I have to say that the snobbishness over what constitutes a kilt is no different than over what constitutes art. As an illustration, a friend of mine is a working artist. We were discussing it one night over some brews and I said you could pawn off nearly anything as art and someone will go for it, all you needed to do was maintain a certain air of pretentiousness. As an experiment we made a plaster model of a burnt kitchen match 6 feet tall. We displayed it at a local art fair and Gary was shocked at the responses. It actually sold for $800 and gave me lots of told you so rights. What it comes down to is you can make a very general definition but as soon as you try getting too specific you've lost the debate. Nobodys personal opinion is going to carry any weight with someone else and arguing it is an exercise in futility.

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    Looks like the thread continues. Been wrapped up in meetings and demos all day.

    Mike, I don't think that we were getting too heated, I thought it was just a very spirited discussion. If I went over the line, let me know. In the final analysis for me, we each have different opinions to share, and this thread which started about the financial value of jeans vs. kilts (remember way back then) morphed into a very good airing and discussion on how we categorize a kilt.

    KP, thanks for the response regarding your interaction and participation with the bulletin board and web site. While it may not make you an expert, at least you are speaking from the experience of being an active participant on this topic. But I resemble the remark that you don't want to be thought of as a nerd running the technology! What is wrong with that? That is part of my life!

    RJI
    The kilt concealed a blaster strapped to his thigh. Lazarus Long

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiltedCodeWarrior
    Mike, I don't think that we were getting too heated, I thought it was just a very spirited discussion. If I went over the line, let me know.
    It was just a dose of preventative measure was all. Nobody has been over the line, the thread is an interesting one and I just didn't want to see it deteriorate. Carry on, carry on... ;)

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